Well, personally I call "concepts of right/wrong" morality and "compromises of right/wrong with nature and others" ethics.
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Replying to @atthatmatt @KevinSimler
So you can think whatever you want about right/wrong, and that's your morality. But when you try to act on it, and are constrained by the natural world and the other people in it, you format new system of right/wrong based in compromises that are practical.
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Replying to @atthatmatt
OK. In that case, chuck the term "morality" and pretend I never mentioned it. Just focus on "behavior that seems to help others at one's own expense." Is there still a problem?
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Replying to @KevinSimler
I'm not sure. Different frameworks trying to match up. I don't see anything in the post about what a person believes is right, only the systems of practical compromises. That's why they seemed conflated, but maybe you just didn't think beliefs we're relevant?
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Replying to @atthatmatt
ah yes, that's right. we must be talking past each other
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Replying to @KevinSimler
Okay, then it seems weird to make people first class entities. Aren't they 90% being driven by they system? If beliefs don't matter, then people are mostly passive cogs, so shouldn't something like genes be the focus?
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Replying to @atthatmatt
i think the ideas i'm trying to convey are about (abstract) niches and strategies in a complex system, rather than about any particular things that might instantiate those strategies (genes, people, beliefs, etc.)
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Replying to @KevinSimler
Is it accurate to say you're more interested in observing and cataloguing than in driving to root cause?
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Replying to @KevinSimler
Where do you expect to find root cause if not the things that instantiated other things?
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