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Writer, software person, armchair anthropologist, dilettante. All genders, all political opinions welcome. Book: https://amzn.com/0190495995/ 

San Francisco, CA
meltingasphalt.com
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    1. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler 28 Nov 2017
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      The Leaning Tower of Morality — my latest post at Ribbonfarm https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2017/11/28/the-leaning-tower-of-morality/ …pic.twitter.com/auVwXM2VBd

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    2. Cameron Harwick  🏛‏ @C_Harwick 28 Nov 2017
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      Been thinking about this a lot recently. You're onto something important that group selection probably implies altruism is maladaptive in the modern world.pic.twitter.com/DsjiF2Xepn

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    3. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler 28 Nov 2017
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      Yeah, that was the main thing I wanted to discuss! It's a point I haven't seen (m)any other people articulate. Did you catch the Richard Dawkins comment I linked to? http://www.meltingasphalt.com/addendum-to-the-leaning-tower/#dawkins … It also explains moral behavior in a way that suggests it's now maladaptive.

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    4. Cameron Harwick  🏛‏ @C_Harwick 28 Nov 2017
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      It sounds like Dawkins still thinks altruism is adaptive & stable, even if it's now used more broadly than its original "purpose" would imply.

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    5. Cameron Harwick  🏛‏ @C_Harwick 28 Nov 2017
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      Also, saying that reinforcement learning explains cooperation is question-begging. The ability & inclination to pick up social reinforcement (i.e. caring about status) is the most foundational form of "true" altruism!

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      Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler 28 Nov 2017
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      I agree RL doesn't help *explain* cooperation (and I may be guilty of a bit of circular reasoning). The point I was trying to make is, "If humans are good RLers [which I think is true], then the prevalence of cooperation suggests it's adaptive."

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