thanks Mat. I don't think my reasoning is flawed though, because no _individual_ can fix things (for their kids) on their own.
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Replying to @KevinSimler
there is plenty individuals can do eg: (1) vote for pols that will enact legislation (2) behavior change (eg go vegetarian)
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Replying to @matbalez
but the pragmatic EV on those actions is 0. (Actually negative when you account for the costs.)
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when you go vegan, you don't nudge the climate more than 0.0000001%. and meanwhile, you incur the costs of veganism.
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Replying to @KevinSimler
problem of climate change (existential risk to humanity) is near infinite so that tiny percentage represents huge value
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Replying to @matbalez
oh, i disagree climate change is an existential risk. i guess that's where we differ. with your estimates, your logic makes sense
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Replying to @KevinSimler
ok. but separately why do you not count individual action as part of a collective action (e.g. voting) to be fair game?
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Replying to @matbalez
because the individual action (w/in collective action problem) is by definition -EV, and i'm methodologically assuming selfishness
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Replying to @KevinSimler
you're saying that voting is, by definition, negative expected value? i don't follow.
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Replying to @matbalez
not quite. I'm saying a collective action problem requires -EV for individual actions, by defn. And voting can be modeled as CAP
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sorry if I'm misunderstanding you here. this may be too complex for tweet-sized exchanges
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Replying to @KevinSimler
you're also clearly much smarter about this than me, so i am likely in error
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