Kevin Simler

@KevinSimler @Meaningness The more wealth-extractive your group, the more effective dominance can be, the more parasitical the leaders are?

@paulbaumgart @Meaningness OK yeah, makes sense. If your goal is to extract/be a parasite, you won't go beyond the lip of the volcano?

@KevinSimler @paulbaumgart Or maybe: there are multiple routes to prestige, accessible to different sorts of people; only some require s-s.

@Meaningness @paulbaumgart This has to be true. Although I might argue that all prestige requires s-s, but not all is -EV fitness-wise

@KevinSimler @paulbaumgart Why would all prestige require self-sacrifice? (Various people have argued that this is true only in Christianity

@Meaningness @paulbaumgart No one wants to follow a person who's always and only looking out for #1. Even kings lead troops into battle/etc.

@KevinSimler @paulbaumgart Not sure this is factually true :-)

@Meaningness @paulbaumgart Not all kings/not all battles, but the gist is that leaders need to step up and stick their necks out. No?