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    1. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler Aug 17
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      I confess I don’t get the existential concern around deepfakes. Can anyone explain it to me? I imagine we’ll have a few incidents where deepfakes are taken too seriously, as we get used to them. But we’ll learn and adapt pretty quickly, as we did with Photoshop. Yes/no/maybe?

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    2. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 Aug 17
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      The concern is not the ability to claim X via deepfake, it is the ability to deny Y by claiming evidence for it is deepfake. Same as the Russian troll farms — just generate so much confusion and doubt that most people say “well WTF knows” and give up caring.

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    3. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler Aug 17
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      What’s an example of something real that you think people will use the “it’s a deepfake!” excuse for? Celebrity sex tapes are probably first in line. But what else? I’m having trouble thinking of forums where there isn’t going to be other corroborating evidence.

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    4. William Eden‏ @WilliamAEden Aug 17
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      Look at the discussion of “Russian bots” already! Anytime someone disagrees with you on Twitter you can claim “Russian bots” and completely deny the opposition any legitimacy.

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    5. William Eden‏ @WilliamAEden Aug 17
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      The number one excuse deepfakes will be used for is political figures who want to disown a bunch of disqualifying behaviors.

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    6. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler Aug 17
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      Again, I’m having trouble thinking of examples where the only evidence is a video. Can you give an example of something caught on camera in the past that DQed a politician, that you think could be dodged in the future with cries of “Deepfake!”?

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      Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler Aug 17
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      Maybe what y’all are trying to say is that deepfakes make it easier for would-be Trumps to be more Trump-like in their disregard for truth (even in the face of clear contradictory evidence), because the veil of plausibility will be ever-so-slightly thicker?

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        2. Misha‏ @drethelin Aug 17
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          Arguably one of the big problems will be the combination of a surveillance state and deepfakes. Maybe not a lot of powerful people are brought down by video/audio evidence, but many weaker arehttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/4060443/Seven-of-ten-murders-solved-by-CCTV.html …

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        3. Misha‏ @drethelin Aug 17
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          Maybe we'll get an equilibrium where the cops can deepfake anyone they want into a crime scene and if they're not sympathetic to the jury they get jailed. Or maybe we get an equilibrium where CCTV footage is no longer considered admissible evidence or something

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