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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Aug 4
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      Note that obsessive focus on wealth/success is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy. More individuals will be wealthy and/or successful as a fraction of the population and the society in aggregate will also be more wealthy and successful. But median is not the same as maximum.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Aug 4
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      You’ll have more billionaires and rockstars per capital and higher GDP and growth perhaps. But you’ll also be more cruel to your poor, sick, dying than societies with less individual/collective wealth/success. You’ll have bigger social costs, snowballing faster.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Aug 4
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      You will de facto criminalize lack of success or wealth. Your ability to solve for anything else (wisdom, compassion) will atrophy, because those are skills too. Privilege literally means private law. That will become the only kind of law. Public law will become prison yard law.

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Aug 4
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      Solving for wealth/success will look like breaking out of prison. If you’re not born to privilege, you’ll be born into increasingly prison-like situations, designed to contain, coerce, punish, tame. What I call breaking smart in more optimistic writing will become breaking out.

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Aug 4
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      All countries have their share of transient problems, acute crises, chronic structural problems, and existential paradoxes. But the US probably has the most severe collective mental health problem among countries I think I grok. And the root cause is a wealth/success monoculture.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Aug 4
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      All this just makes me sad. The hard part is that America is highly attached to its wealth/success orientation as both a great national strength and the root of its exceptionalism narrative. It is hard to accept that your greatest strength can also be your greatest weakness.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Aug 4
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      Arrested development is *always* rooted in a sense of one’s strength. It is hard to move past this condition because it’s hard to notice when a strength stops being a strength and turns into a limiting self-perception. I have no suggestions. America will either grow or die.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Aug 4
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      Btw, inequality, wealth concentration, cronyism, financialization of everything: all these are not “problems”. The are natural consequences of W/S values and enjoy basic moral sanction. If wealth+success = good, anything that favors it can at worst be inefficient, not bad.

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Aug 4
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      The “problem” America has with these things is that they let “undeserving” people get wealthy and successful, and prevent greater peaks being reached by bigger Big Men, not because they make the poor more miserable or prisons more terrible.

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    10. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 Aug 4
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      Here's (one of the places) where your scheme breaks down, Venkat. IF the SOLE metric were wealth/success, then there would be no such thing as "undeserving" people; success justifies everything, there are only the successful and the not.

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      Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler Aug 4
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      Yeah I don’t think there’s a _pure_ monoculture of W/S in the US. But to make an idea crisp, it’s often useful to make a caricature of it. That’s what I took Venkat to be doing here.

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        2. Maynard Handley‏ @handleym99 Aug 4
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          Sure. Sometimes spherical cows make sense, sometimes not. For example the Paperclip Maximizer story sounds plausible — IF there is a SINGLE AI... It falls apart and says nothing useful as soon as you assume a population of AIs.

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          At the very least, before taking the W/S story too much further, I’d want to know why a population indoctrinated since birth on “money isn’t everything” supposedly behaves as though it is everything. What’s the alternative channel?

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