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Writer, software person, armchair anthropologist, dilettante. All genders, all political opinions welcome. Book: https://amzn.com/0190495995/ 

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    1. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler Jul 23
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      Depending on how you slice it, we have ~8 sensory systems: —Vision —Hearing —Touch —Taste —Smell —Vestibular (balance) —Interoception (internal organs) —Propriocetion (joints/muscles) Idea: modeling introspection as a 9th “sensory system” Is this stupid? Profound? Fruitful?

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    2. Fate Of Twist‏ @FateOfTwist_ Jul 23
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      Introspection is more of an acting/doing and relies heavily on those sensory modalities. Especially hearing and touch. It seems kind of like asking whether we should consider lifting a sensory modality.

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    3. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler Jul 23
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      I don’t understand. How can we make a claim like “I want to watch TV” without some subsystem responsible for monitoring/perceiving what’s happening in the brain? Why is introspection more of an acting/doing than listening?

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    4. Fate Of Twist‏ @FateOfTwist_ Jul 24
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      Well, for one, you don't monitor or perceive anything happening in your brain any more than you do so for your liver. The brain is an organ with at best shaky and incomplete non-reductive causal relations with perceptual and mental activity.

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    5. Fate Of Twist‏ @FateOfTwist_ Jul 24
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      When it comes to "I want to watch tv", much of the time it just happens, you do it without reflecting on that desire. Noticing that desire is noticing your actual movement towards watching tv, or your propensity to do so, which shows up in eg muscle tone

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      Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler Jul 24
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      Yes, most of the time we just do things without reflecting on them. But I have in mind something in the direction of attention schema theory, in which the key thing that needs to be explained is the ability to make verbal reports about mental states.

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        2. Fate Of Twist‏ @FateOfTwist_ Jul 24
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          What do you mean by mental states? Does this include "I see a tree"? Or just "internal" stuff like "I have Chopin's funeral March stuck in my head" or "I want to watch tv"?

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        3. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler Jul 24
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          All of the above, I think?

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