to me this is one of your clearest expressions of how rationalism falls short
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Replying to @KevinSimler @Meaningness
I was about to say it’s the clearest example of how he doesn’t seem to get it.
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“Why do you spend so much time fixing bugs instead of concentrating on all the times the software works normally?”
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Perhaps a better analogy: why are you worried about how the boiler behaves if it gets overpressurized? Why not just focus on how well it runs the rest of the time?
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Replying to @drethelin @Meaningness
I don't really get this analogy. As I understand David, he's saying that rationalism focuses on how to maximize EV at explicit decision points, but ignores how to deal with facets of the system that don't show up as explicit choices
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It's not [rational = bugs] vs. [metarational = working smoothly], but rather [rational = choice points] vs. [metarational = total behavior of the system]
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FWIW, the main criticism of metarationalism that resonates with me is: anything that meta-R points out can then (by virtue of being pointed out) get folded neatly into R. Rationalists absolutely care about all the things metarationalists care about! So where's the meta??
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It doesn't seem straightforward that pointing out a gap in R leads to filling that gap in R. Perhaps we need to be more specific about a time when this happened or didn't happen.
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I was operating under the assumption that as soon as you point out a gap, it creates the ability to choose between "keeping the gap" or "filling/fixing the gap," in which case R's got you covered
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I feel like that's a rationalist assumption that some meta-rationalists would object to. For example, in
@everytstudies's analysis of the Klein-Harris disagreement, he points out the gap between their value systems, but seeing the gap doesn't bridge it.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
not that the gap gets automagically bridged! just that pointing out a gap brings in the rationalist apparatus, i.e., to conceive of it as a decision (keep doing what’s being flagged as suboptimal vs. try to change) and apply explicit reasoning
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Replying to @KevinSimler @everytstudies
I like the idea that some reasoning, esp long-term, is too big or complex for humans to grasp it as explicit propositions. That would be Taleb-style "rationality" (another redefining of the word).
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