https://meltingasphalt.com/a-natural-history-of-beauty/ … (esp. the bit about the flytraps)
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@KevinSimler re: "out there or in us?"– I like to riff off of@meaningness's point about rainbowshttps://twitter.com/Meaningness/status/863915605019250688 …
Meanings are interactions, like rainbows
https://meaningness.com/objective-subjective … pic.twitter.com/jmh3PhmYIx
Oh what a great passage! A coda I would add is that, once you have the full causal model of a rainbow, it becomes _much less interesting_ to ask how the labels “objective” and “subjective” apply to it.
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Yes! And, generalizing, most arguments about whether something is subjective or objective are due to both words being poorly defined, and can be resolved by looking at the concrete specifics of the relationships involved.
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Tbh I'm still skeptical about the non-objecthood of that rainbow. You and your friends standing together will say "look at that thing, that rainbow". You are carving out this phenomenon from other things and treating it on its own; cont
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Holes, shadows, and other absences are objects. Boarders, personal space, the end zone, and other significant/managed/politicized spaces are objects. Materiality is only a heuristic.
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