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Writer, software person, armchair anthropologist, dilettante. All genders, all political opinions welcome. Book: https://amzn.com/0190495995/ 

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    1. Magnus Vinding‏ @MagnusVinding 27 Sep 2018
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      "Narrative Self-Deception: The Ultimate Elephant in the Brain?" An attempt to critique and build upon @robinhanson and @KevinSimler's The Elephant in the Brain. Trying to expose a great optimism elephant that conveniently ignores bad things.https://magnusvinding.com/2018/09/27/narrative-self-deception-the-ultimate-elephant-in-the-brain/ …

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    2. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @MagnusVinding @robinhanson

      I *really* appreciated this post. Like Robin said, the "life is good" claim isn't really something we argue for. In fact, I'll be honest, it was a little bit flippant. I thought of it as a "spoonful of sugar" to make the rest of our book more palatable to some people.

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    3. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler 1 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @KevinSimler @MagnusVinding @robinhanson

      More importantly, though, I think you're entirely correct to flag it as an area where the forces of self-deception are especially strong. "Life is bad" is one of the least popular opinions a person can hold! So we should all be very wary of our judgment here.

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      Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler 1 Oct 2018
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      fwiw, I've engaged a little with these ideas, mostly by reading Sarah Perry's book "Every Cradle is a Grave." I still happen to think human life/consciousness is subjectively good, broadly and on net, but that book made me a lot less certain about it.

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        1. Magnus Vinding‏ @MagnusVinding 2 Oct 2018
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          "Net good" can be a little deceptive here and is worth scrutinizing, I think. One can think most human lives are "net positive" yet not think these justify the worst of suffering experienced by a few. The Omelas scenario gives many pause, and yet no extreme suffering is involved.

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        2. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler 1 Oct 2018
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          Anyway, thanks for the very astute and worthwhile riff on our thesis. And please let me know if you write anything else along these lines.

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        3. Magnus Vinding‏ @MagnusVinding 2 Oct 2018
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          You're most welcome, and thanks for reading and responding. :-) I have written two long essays that argue for suffering-focused ethics, one general and one specific: https://magnusvinding.com/2018/09/03/suffering-focused-ethics/ … https://magnusvinding.com/2018/09/03/the-principle-of-sympathy-for-intense-suffering/ … More here: https://suffering-focused-ethics.surge.sh/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyA_eF7W02s …

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        1. simon evans‏ @TheSimonEvans 2 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @KevinSimler @MagnusVinding @robinhanson

          Is this close to The Conspiracy Against the Human Race, T Ligotti?

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        1. José Luis Ricón (Artir)‏ @ArtirKel 2 Oct 2018
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          Have you read my critical reviews?

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