Deaths per 100,000 compared to the UK?
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Als antwoord op @affleckquine
Total for the pandemic - UK 182 per 100,000 and Spain 152 per 100,000. Both pretty appalling.
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Als antwoord op @AlanAdder75 @affleckquine
But we haven't. Some of us have but many haven't. Kate described a proper lockdown in Spain for short periods. We have had long periods with very little actual lockdown. It was mockdown
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @AlanAdder75
So do you think there's any point in lockdowns Kevin? My question really is because: 1. I think we missed that boat 2. The peaks and troughs of the UK and Spain pretty much mirror the position worldwide, regardless of the measures taken.
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Als antwoord op @affleckquine @AlanAdder75
Yes I do and I think the science backs it up. But they must be early and very hard and linked to effective Test, Track and Trace system. You've got to isolate small numbers early on.
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @AlanAdder75
But that's my point, they didn't go early and don't have an effective test & trace - so why have lockdowns now? Surely they must be causing real damage for no benefit?
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Als antwoord op @affleckquine @AlanAdder75
Certainly in South Wales we had no option at Christmas - ICUs full and mortuaries full. If they hadn't locked down the NHS would have been totally swamped. Lockdown was a safety valve
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @AlanAdder75
Sorry Kevin, I'm probably more cynical than you! It was you who called it a mockdow though, so do you really believe that it saved the day?
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Als antwoord op @affleckquine @AlanAdder75
It was the wrong sort of lockdown ie too late and not properly enforced - but it still saved the NHS in stopping ICU being overrun. At one stage in South Wales there was not one available ICU bed and mortuaries were full. What would you have done to stop it?
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Kate during the end of December and early January the County I live in had the highest infection rates in the UK, and my local sub area had the 3rd highest rates in that County. We were on the edge of a precipice - it was lockdown or people dead and dying in their houses
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