When Corbyn was elected, MPs and former MPs and Blair etc repeatedly undermined Corbyn in the eager media. What’s happening now is that ordinary members are upset with Starmer. Eg BLM, schools, RLB, spy cops etc.
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Als antwoord op @marksul44 @Red99percent en
Given Corbyn has opposed every Lab leader ever - it is a bit rich. Here he is opposing John Smith:pic.twitter.com/rDIroEHMTR
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Als antwoord op @SanjayFBPEUK @Red99percent en
Don’t rely on ‘dossiers’ or smears!
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Als antwoord op @marksul44 @Red99percent en
Or perhaps rely on evidence to question why an ex-leader of a party who has shown no loyalty to any past leader of Lab once again cannot help himself. It is also a bit hypocritical to on the one hand complain about loyalty but never show it.
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Als antwoord op @SanjayFBPEUK @marksul44 en
The sort of loyalty to support the killing of hundreds of thousands of civilians in the Middle East. No thanks
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @marksul44 en
So you aren't complaining about lack of loyalty when Jeremy Corbyn was leader? Note: Robin Cook showed loyalty to the Lab Gov but on a specific issue voted on his personal principals - not the hundreds of times Corbyn opposed last Lab gov.
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Als antwoord op @SanjayFBPEUK @marksul44 en
Robin Cook did just that - as did Corbyn on so many points of principle. I love principled politicians but they are such a rarity
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @marksul44 en
To do it on big issues is one thing - to do it hundreds of times and to every Lab leader is another - to do it after being a leader and undermine the current leader shows a pattern.
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Als antwoord op @SanjayFBPEUK @marksul44 en
But surely they were big issues to him and his principles. These weren’t votes to make short term political capital, they were votes of principle. Sadly many MPs of all parties struggle with the latter concept
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @marksul44 en
Yes always vote on principals and never compromise. You can feel good, show how principled you are and not have to partake in the grubby business of actually delivering change for the millions who need it.
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If every MP voted on principle life would be much better
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @marksul44 en
Perhaps that is the problem - we are asking to make decisions on how things are and not from how we want them to be? Corbyn is not liked by enough of the electorate (we can disagree on why) but I cannot see you can disagree on the reality.
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Als antwoord op @SanjayFBPEUK @marksul44 en
We have a dysfunctional electoral and parliamentary system. Hence why so many in Scotland and Wales want to leave it
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