No, I am talking about people who can validate and reason to them dying from the virus so they can carry on with their lives. That is not normal behaviour.
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Als antwoord op @jaczjazz @PinotGrigio18 en
Lots of people who died earlier in the year were judged by the medical authorities to be already so old and sick by that they should not be afforded intensive care if they contracted covid. That kind of decision does seem brutal, but it is "normal" medical ethics I believe. 1/2
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Als antwoord op @timtron2020 @PinotGrigio18 en
What seems to me abnormal is older people being denied human contact with their families in the name of saving their lives. But no-one seems to have asked them if they wanted to take the risk, and for some (eg dementia sufferers) it meant a sad death. 2/2 https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/05/covid-19-causing-10000-dementia-deaths-beyond-infections-research-says …
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Als antwoord op @timtron2020 @PinotGrigio18 en
If people want to take their relatives out of homes to look after them, fine. But to keep allowing them to visit not only puts their relatives at risk, but other residents as well.
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Als antwoord op @jaczjazz @PinotGrigio18 en
Well, if people are able to look after their elderly relatives at home, they often do. People (like dementia sufferers) generally go into care homes because their specific needs mean they have to. But clearly if they are then can't see their loved ones they will die very quickly.
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Als antwoord op @timtron2020 @PinotGrigio18 en
Then it is down to the relative to make that choice, I am sorry but relatives going in and out is only going to increase the chances of the virus.
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Als antwoord op @jaczjazz @PinotGrigio18 en
That's my point. Fixating on "the virus" is a kind of brutality in itself. It's ignoring the myriad risks to one's health that become more pronounced the older we get. Denying emotional connections/support to dementia sufferers and others is far more deadly to them than covid.
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Als antwoord op @timtron2020 @PinotGrigio18 en
No everyone has to make difficult choices. You can't have it both ways. Sorry.. There is a lady on here that looks after her husband with front lobe dementia. She makes a choice no matter how hard it is.
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Als antwoord op @jaczjazz @PinotGrigio18 en
Of course some are able to make sacrifices and care for their loved ones at home. But not everyone can and sometimes specific needs are such that it's not a choice. That was so before covid. But now fear of "the virus" has created a kind of living death for some elderly people.
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Als antwoord op @timtron2020 @PinotGrigio18 en
No, if you are concerned about a loved one you would do it. Millions of people do saving this government 100's of millions
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Agreed - as long as you can sustainably care for them then it’s their choice and your choice - and as long as their legal protections allows it eg power of attorney in place if they don’t have the mental capacity to make the decision
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