Any thoughts on the tweet below? It’s independence or bust for me. Federalism won’t work when Scotland is independent and NI rejoins the Republic and Tories are perpetually in charge in England. Too many mixed messages from within Labour on Brit Union and Welsh Autonomy.https://twitter.com/KevinPascoe/status/1310361091512455168 …
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Als antwoord op @IestynapRhobert
Not mixed messages just pragmatism about what’s best for Wales in the short and medium term. Elfyn Lwyd’s commission similarly recognised the practical difficulties - but that’s not a reason to rule it out. It’s just about finding the right way forward
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe
Maybe not you, Kevin but the Labour Party as a whole. Chris Bryant was ranting on about how amazing the union is for Wales regardless we’ve had a Tory government for the last 10 years.
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Als antwoord op @IestynapRhobert
Labour is a very diverse party, like all others. We are having far more open debates about this than I suspect many people realise. Those closer to Westminster probably less aware of grass roots membership shifts
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe
That’s good to hear, Kevin. I know Ben Gwalchmai and Huw Williams have worked their socks off over the last four years to break down barriers and get this on the Labour agenda.
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Als antwoord op @IestynapRhobert
Seriously I’ve been surprised that so many in the party have the ability to see a socialist Labour party can have a key role an an independent Wales. We are wedded to doing the best for the people of Wales regardless of governance structures. Things have changed
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @IestynapRhobert
So Kevin , just a quick question ? would you consider a Welsh Labour party in Wales that breaks free from its links with London totally and become pro Indy ? So it doesnt take its orders from UK Labour and isnt pro union and becomes pro Indy ?
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Als antwoord op @jasper_welsh @IestynapRhobert
It doesn’t take its orders from London, as Mark Drakeford shows daily, but I have previously made calls for a far more federal arrangement within the party. Again there is strong support for that in the party itself, particularly around building capacity / resources locally
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @IestynapRhobert
Didnt answer the question .... plus your telling me Welsh Labour ignores what Sir Keir says ?
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Jay what is your problem?
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