Unlike the Brexit campaign there needs to be honest debate about the advantages and disadvantages of independence.
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @rapsiencyn en
What do you consider to be the disadvantages from your own perspective please Kevin?
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Als antwoord op @EfanIfor @rapsiencyn en
As outlined in Elfyn’s report it’s our economic / fiscal unreadiness, the need for public service cuts / tax hikes isn’t a price worth paying at this point. It’s as practical as that. I have no fear that Wales can stand as an independent nation but it must have a sound economy
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @rapsiencyn en
Diolch Kevin for replying. Would it be possible for you to elaborate on your points there please? I’d be very interested to know what will make, in your opinion, our economy equipped to be independent? Where does our economy to be in your mind? What would you require to 1/2>
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Als antwoord op @EfanIfor @KevinPascoe en
> convince you that it had been achieved and that Wales was now in a fiscal position for you to get on board with? Also, finallyDo you think independence would help us get there or hinder us, & visa versa, do you think being in the union helps us or hinders us getting there?2/2<
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Als antwoord op @EfanIfor @rapsiencyn en
Somewhere close to us achieving continuity of public services provision funded via enhanced tax receipts through a stronger economy. Many small nations have taken decades to achieve a strong economy. Some rely on being international tax havens, whereas i want an ethical Wales
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @EfanIfor en
Thats a chicken, egg scenario. Based on extremely suspect economic figures. All Westminster has to do is keep telling us how we’re poor, keep us poor by screwing the economy to suit the south east of England. GERW is based on extremely suspect guesstimates from the Treasury.
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Als antwoord op @rapsiencyn @EfanIfor en
I understand that but if you provide me with 100% reliable counter data that we are frighteningly rich in Wsles I won’t believe you
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @EfanIfor en
Can’t be done. We can ask why other small nations do very well in Northern Europe but we can’t? Even with suspect figures we do better than many other nations as we now are under the yoke of Westminster! This is revealing?pic.twitter.com/XzepfeglO2
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Als antwoord op @rapsiencyn @EfanIfor en
You know per capita GDP is the relevant measure here. Some are outliers who thrive on international tax avoidance (hence my ethical comment). Worth noting the economic trajectory of many of these nations in their first 20-30 years of independence. No spin - just facts needed
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Also I’m surprised that many examples quoted are not exactly paragons of virtue in terms of corruption. Looking at the Corruption Perception Index from Transparency International they are not countries I’d want to be part of eg Belarus,Malta, Bulgaria 
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @EfanIfor en
Seriously? We are an annexed nation of one the most corrupt governments in the west! The graphic was to illustrate the GPD of many independent nations is much smaller than ours & we are nowhere near performing as well as we could be.
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Als antwoord op @rapsiencyn @EfanIfor en
Malta sees investigative journalists car bombed, Bulgaria awash with mafia money and Belarus herding up masses of protesters off the steer today. Let’s get some perspective. I’m not defending London as the money laundering capital of the world, but I want something better
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