Being serious though it’s so refreshing being in undod precisely cause it’s NOT running for office so don’t have to second guess or triangulate everything before acting. + means we can be a bridge + facilitate these conversations - think some undod hosted debates are on the way!
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Totally with you - we need to remain non-partisan - that will be our strength.
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I agree that we need the non partisan
@undodcymru’s &@indytanc’s but at the moment I cannot see WLab ever back indy or Plaid be radical enough to emulate the SNP at the ballot box
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Als antwoord op @EfanIfor @Plaid_Cymru en
> movement at the ballot box and in the Senedd. Of course there is the alt view that we just build support for it amongst electorate so that when Scots & N.Ire leave it will be necessary to ask electorate if they wish to remain Eng&Wal, and it’s at this point we win a vote.<
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Als antwoord op @EfanIfor @SCClarkCymru en
I think Labour will end up backing it - just because enough of their electorate end up supporting it. But they’ll do their best to hinder until then. And I don’t think we want an SNP situation - ideal world imo is an Indy wales breaks with one-partyism.
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Als antwoord op @AlexHeffron20 @EfanIfor en
I think WLab might be farther along than people think - regional ballots are pushing Indy (curious) people into the Senedd (eg Kevin pascoe on the list and Ben gwalchmai on the ballot). Scottish Labour would never have allowed that.
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I am not alone - many in Welsh Labour are happy to discuss independence - and real federalism as an alternative. We aren’t going to end up like Scottish Labour
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @EfanIfor en
Federalism won't work .... As the real power will still reside in london. We need the power here in Wales. Independence can only deliver that
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Als antwoord op @jasper_welsh @EfanIfor en
I’m talking about true federalism where we choose what we buy into and what we don’t. For example my personal views on Trident is that we shouldn’t contribute
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @EfanIfor en
AHH right I get you .... But I think most will see that as a middle ground fudge but I see your angle on it
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Nice to have a respectful conversation on this. Take care
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