It's all well and good quoting flu figures though, but you have to question how many more people would have died without these unprecedented lockdown measures.
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We've had 4,147 deaths this month! Its June! Summertime!
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We haven't mate. Look at the chart. Been on the way down. Can't keep quoting excess death figures, all of which are not because of covid19.pic.twitter.com/jdgIJNt2ST
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Als antwoord op @RyanXander3 @Marvo5Marvo en
Already pointed out he way in which figured are recorded and reported. No distinction of death WITH covid and death BY Covid. In Italy in revision by the National Institute of Health, out of 17k deaths at the time only 12% had death BY Covid on death certificates
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Als antwoord op @RyanXander3 @Marvo5Marvo en
We are Lumping them all on death certificates! Even suspected deaths without testing also. Then no determination of covid actually caused the deaths in ppl already ill to varying degrees. It's not as black and white as people want to believe.
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So if you were diagnosed with a terminal illness but the doctor said it could take up to 10 years, then you got the flu and died. Did you die from the flu or did you die from the terminal illness?
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By the same token if a person was diagnosed with a terminal illness and was already critically ill with days left to live and there was nothing else that could be done to save them was it covid or the illness? Many aren't sure it's why credible reports say death WITH not BY covid
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Also I'd like to know if care homes is a blanket term that also includes hospices?
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Als antwoord op @RyanXander3 @Marvo5Marvo en
Question you have to ask is what was the bigger contributing factor to that death
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We'll get a clearer picture later in the year if the excess deaths drop significantly lower than normal years for the last 6 months.
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I’m dropping out of the conversation. It pointless trying to debate it with Ryan - he’s in the Toby Young and Alison Pearson school of they were old and unwell do dying early doesn’t matter to me. I’m not wasting my time on someone as inhumane as that
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