We agree then. It will take another 40 years to see a Socialist leader again, if ever.
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Als antwoord op @wirralphil1 @davmidd en
Within Labour, the opportunity has certainly gone. What many of us had failed to realise was the extent that Blair/Mandelson had managed to infiltrate all the structures of the Party with their people & maintain a steady stream of replacements as necessary. Both genius & tragedy.
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Als antwoord op @karl_trotsky @wirralphil1 en
Yes, who would have thought they were looking so far ahead as to prevent socialism for the foreseeable future? Genius indeed. Which is what makes me sure I need to desert this corrupted party. But where to? I really don’t know.
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Als antwoord op @Teresa_Peckham @wirralphil1 en
It's easy to forget just how thorough was the New Labour Project. Everyone had to be "on message" Corbyn was a rare rebel because he had a safe seat & no ambition for advancement within the Party or indeed Government. As for the future, hopefully a new Dem Soc Party will emerge.
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Als antwoord op @karl_trotsky @wirralphil1 en
Don’t know I’ve the luxury of time. Corbyn such a breath of fresh air - someone who actually represented what I believed in. A new party is such a long-term enterprise. I’m thinking of the Greens? If not I think I’ll just have to become a full time cynic and to hell with them all
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Als antwoord op @Teresa_Peckham @karl_trotsky en
I'm sure there are enough socialist MP's + new now who could start another party practically overnight if they set their minds to it, and I have no doubts whatsoever that they'd have the support + votes to go with. Change UK had no support as were blatantly part of the problem.
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Als antwoord op @traciewayling @Teresa_Peckham en
Good point Tracie. Independence Party MK11 "The Left Strikes Back" Why not...as you say
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Als antwoord op @ArtCrunchy @traciewayling en
There are plenty of “real” socialist parties out there, why will your new one be any more popular?
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Als antwoord op @SariellaHerself @davmidd en
Yes there has to be current MPs leading the movement for credibility and electability. Corbyn or Burgon, with Sultana, etc, plus ex MPs like Pidcock. I believe vast numbers who have left or are wavering would back that. Other Socialist parties could be approached to join.
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JCs not going anywhere - the only one with any socialist vision or passion is Laura P. Her involvement with the ‘fight and stay’ movement means she would not sign up any time soon. I’m not criticising what you are saying pleading for realism
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