You suppose that Farage, UKIP, even Russia, had no interest in the societal outcomes. I'm not so sure.
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Als antwoord op @msaunby @will789gb
I’d agree on all those wanting societal polarisation, I’m only saying it was never Cameron’s intention. He was so incompetent - and encouraged to be by the Lib Dem’s - that he could not see this outcome. We are now dealing with this crap because of his stupidity
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @will789gb
Agreed, but I don't accept that Cameron really called the referendum, since those forces were there already. He failed to stop it, and perhaps thought his dumb luck with Scottish independence could hold for Brexit too. Corbyn didn't see the need to support, so shit hit the fan.
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Als antwoord op @msaunby @KevinPascoe
Not sure what is meant here.
#Corbyn did support#Remain, on his own terms. Mandelson was Cameron lite but in my take did not reach any wider support.#Corbyn case on worker rights, consumer and environment protection. Not well reported.1 antwoord 0 retweets 0 vind-ik-leuks -
Als antwoord op @will789gb @KevinPascoe
I'm sure
@BenPBradshaw remarked on how Labour supporters proudly told him the voted to Leave BECAUSE they were acting against the Tory government. They sure as hell didn't get that message from Ben.3 antwoorden 0 retweets 0 vind-ik-leuks -
Please explain a bit more. There was a strong message from Gordon Brown. Did that not get across? Did it add anything to Cameron as an argument? My take
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I don't know for sure. I strongly suspect senior Tory and Labour MPs were keen to see a lot of protest votes but thought Remain was safe because most voters aren't idiots.
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Let’s be totally honest the referendum was a victory for the motivated over the apathetic - regardless of the issues of cheating and lies
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Except it wasn't a victory, unless you mean in the sense of creating history comparable with The Charge Of The Light Brigade.
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Als antwoord op @msaunby @KevinPascoe en
It's actually pretty easy to motivate activist to call for change, and almost impossible to generate passion for no change. Once we've left the pressure to rejoin, at any price, will be immense.
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You could be right
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