Is that what the choice is between in your mind, Kevin? Labour, the Tories or ‘magic’? There is no magic solution. But we do need to recognise that Westminster isn’t working for Wales, and to stop making excuses for our own plight. Let’s find a real solution.
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Als antwoord op @nicfromwales @KevinPascoe en
Just been blocked by Kevin, another Corbyn supporter who does not want to hear the truth.
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Als antwoord op @Roadwarrior29 @KevinPascoe en
His cause is (probably) admirable, but he’s fighting England’s battle at the expense of our own people. The English have the government they voted for, while we have a government content to be ruled by them.
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Als antwoord op @nicfromwales @Roadwarrior29 en
So are you pro independence to fix our ills Nick? I’m open minded on it but still not convinced yet. I think you are being unfair to Labour supporters in Wales - we aren’t Westminster lackeys. We do what we think is best for Wales, but take a pragmatic rather than dogmatic view
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @Roadwarrior29 en
It took me a long time to come around to the idea of an independent Wales, Kev. I was a bit of a unionist until I realised the effect it was having on our people. We’re pragmatic to our own detriment. A better Wales is out there and it’s not ruled by Westminster.
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Als antwoord op @nicfromwales @Roadwarrior29 en
I understand where you are coming from Nic. But perhaps we are both at different stages on the same journey. I want the best for Wales but want to try a fair and progressive UK govt first. All options still open though if that doesn’t work - for me and many others in Welsh Labour
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @Roadwarrior29 en
If you don’t follow them already, perhaps you’d like to check out
@Lab4IndyWales.
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Als antwoord op @nicfromwales @Roadwarrior29 en
I do thanks - like I said I’m open minded, but currently feel a progressive and fair Union is our best option but we shall see
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @nicfromwales en
Though you've seen our points before, Kevin, we're seeing a big rise in the number of people coming to us at the mo. The main reasons they've said are Brexit, the Tories, corruption, etc, but one that's true - no matter the gov - is the democratic deficit. We vote Lab & get Con
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Als antwoord op @Lab4IndyWales @KevinPascoe en
This won't change & the UK won't change into we make it. We have to take steps toward a confederal UK in order to rebalance our democracy. It's the 21st Century, why do we have such outdated systems? Much like so much British history, Wales will need to change first.
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I fully understand your view, big I’m willing to work for change to the current system for now. I am then happy to look for more radical change if that doesn’t work
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Als antwoord op @KevinPascoe @nicfromwales en
Solidarity, Kevin. Keep at it.
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