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Historian: White Flight; The New Suburban History; Spaces of the Modern City; Fog of War; One Nation Under God; Fault Lines; Voter Suppression in US Elections.

Princeton, NJ
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    Kevin M. Kruse‏Verified account @KevinMKruse 22 Jun 2019

    Thanks to the trolls in my mentions, I see Kevin Williamson is back at it in the pages of @NRO. All right, a short thread.https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/06/joe-biden-segregationist-comments-controversy/ …

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      2. Kevin M. Kruse‏Verified account @KevinMKruse 22 Jun 2019

        First of all, I'm flattered by the shout-out. By "a reliable peddler of this sort of thing" I can only assume Williamson meant that I am "a reliable peddler of the overwhelming consensus of four decades of work by historians and political scientists."pic.twitter.com/oEzEyCHYa7

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      3. Kevin M. Kruse‏Verified account @KevinMKruse 22 Jun 2019

        My Twitter presence leads some to single me out now, but -- and I can't repeat this enough -- the case I present online is not some kind of edgy revisionism that I'm pushing alone but a standard account chronicled by countless historians and political scientists for decades.pic.twitter.com/FzcCh4Wv6Z

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      4. Kevin M. Kruse‏Verified account @KevinMKruse 22 Jun 2019

        Kevin M. Kruse Retweeted Kevin M. Kruse

        Beyond the standard denialism about the party realignment, Williamson specifically takes issue with my assertion in this thread of mine that, when Biden entered the Senate in 1973, Jim Eastland (D-MS) and Herman Talmadge (D-GA) were seen as conservative.https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1141475876837777409 …

        Kevin M. Kruse added,

        Kevin M. KruseVerified account @KevinMKruse
        A history lesson *is* warranted. Senators James Eastland and Herman Talmadge were southern *conservatives*—as were other segregationists, in both parties. https://twitter.com/TomCottonAR/status/1141459058731495424 …
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      5. Kevin M. Kruse‏Verified account @KevinMKruse 22 Jun 2019

        Williamson asserts that "by most criteria" men like them were understood to be progressives. Which criteria exactly?pic.twitter.com/glP8RwjRmk

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      6. Kevin M. Kruse‏Verified account @KevinMKruse 22 Jun 2019

        Kevin M. Kruse Retweeted Kevin M. Kruse

        In that thread and this one too, I went to lengths to show that, in 1973, by the criteria of the American Conservative Union -- you know, Matt Schlapp's group? the one that runs CPAC today? -- Eastland and Talmadge were considered to be quite conservative.https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1141523506536075265 …

        Kevin M. Kruse added,

        Kevin M. KruseVerified account @KevinMKruse
        Let me put this another way: For 1973, Joe Biden's first year in Congress, the American Conservative Union judged that Sen. Jim Eastland (D-MS) and Sen. Herman Talmadge (D-GA) were more conservative than 23 of the 44 Republicans in the Senate. https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1141475888602726400 …
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      7. Kevin M. Kruse‏Verified account @KevinMKruse 22 Jun 2019

        Kevin M. Kruse Retweeted Kevin M. Kruse

        But maybe the American Conservative Union was an unreliable judge of ... American Conservatism. Well, how about William F. Buckley Jr., who identifies Talmadge and Eastland as "conservative-minded Democrats" who might be lured to switch to the GOP?https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1141729357477699586 …

        Kevin M. Kruse added,

        Kevin M. KruseVerified account @KevinMKruse
        Another way to understand Eastland and Talmadge's place in national politics in the civil rights era: After Strom Thurmond switched to the GOP in 1964, conservatives like William F. Buckley Jr. hoped that Eastland, Talmadge and other Dixiecrats might be persuaded to switch too. pic.twitter.com/yb4vLzyLGJ
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      8. Kevin M. Kruse‏Verified account @KevinMKruse 22 Jun 2019

        So the American Conservative Union thought Eastland and Talmadge were conservative & William F. Buckley Jr. thought so too. Williamson ignores all that and points to Talmadge's vote on Medicare. (You'll note he ignores Eastland's vote. Here it is.)pic.twitter.com/7CuF4ToCVQ

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      9. Kevin M. Kruse‏Verified account @KevinMKruse 22 Jun 2019

        How representative was that one vote? How conservative were Eastland and Talmadge in 1965? The ACU ratings don't start until 1971, but at the other end, the ADA had its liberal ratings. Talmadge got a 12 from the ADA that year. Eastland ... zero. (Note Russell & Stennis too.)pic.twitter.com/uDjSfg8S3e

        2 replies 32 retweets 615 likes
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      10. Kevin M. Kruse‏Verified account @KevinMKruse 22 Jun 2019

        So conservatives like the American Conservative Union & William F. Buckley thought they were conservatives, and liberals like the ADA thought they were conservatives. And what about National Review itself? Well, it literally ran a poem to Talmadge's conservatism in Jan 1972.pic.twitter.com/X1CTz4ZLAu

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      11. Kevin M. Kruse‏Verified account @KevinMKruse 22 Jun 2019

        By most criteria, yes, it seems that Talmadge and Eastland were conservative. Sincerely, Your Most Humble and Reliable Peddler

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      12. Kevin M. Kruse‏Verified account @KevinMKruse 22 Jun 2019

        Kevin M. Kruse Retweeted Lawrence Glickman

        Additional criteria: Richard Nixon's strategist Kevin Phillips, author of The Emerging Republican Majority (1969):https://twitter.com/LarryGlickman/status/1142505044887113728 …

        Kevin M. Kruse added,

        Lawrence Glickman @LarryGlickman
        Replying to @KevinMKruse
        Eastland and Talmadge are two of the “powerful Southern conservatives” mentioned by Kevin Phillips who, he speculated, might move to the GOP after the 1972 election. https://www.newspapers.com/clippings/download/?id=33134811 …
        4 replies 33 retweets 558 likes
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      13. Kevin M. Kruse‏Verified account @KevinMKruse 22 Jun 2019

        Kevin M. Kruse Retweeted Eric Rauchway

        And their voting record in toto, in case you thought the ACU was skewing things.https://twitter.com/rauchway/status/1142514070521729024 …

        Kevin M. Kruse added,

        Eric RauchwayVerified account @rauchway
        Replying to @KevinMKruse @LarryGlickman
        Well, VoteView scores tell us that Eastland was more conservative than the 65% of the 95th Senate and more conservative than 98% of the Democrats in the 95th Senate, while for Talmadge it was 60 and 92%, respectively. https://voteview.com/person/2822/james-oliver-eastland … https://voteview.com/person/9174/herman-eugene-talmadge …
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