Ok, empirically (information obtained by way of observation), what do you propose we do about China and coal?pic.twitter.com/KQXGb75gCZ
আপনি আপনার টুইটগুলিতে ওয়েব থেকে এবং তৃতীয়-পক্ষ অ্যাপ্লিকেশনগুলির মাধ্যমে অবস্থান তথ্য যেমন শহর বা সুনির্দিষ্ট অবস্থান যোগ করতে পারবেন। আপনার কাছে আপনার টুইটের অবস্থান ইতিহাস মোছার বিকল্প থাকবে। আরও জানুন
Ok, empirically (information obtained by way of observation), what do you propose we do about China and coal?pic.twitter.com/KQXGb75gCZ
China needs a carbon tax or standards to eliminate co2 emissions. It is not helpful to view Chinese co2 emissions as evidence of moral failure on the part of average Chinese citizens.
1/2 Who said or implied anything about "evidence of moral failure on the part of average Chinese citizens."? Concerning the non-polemical part of your response...
2/2 since Communist Party of China (CPC) unlikely to impose a Carbon Tax domestically within China, how about imposing a Carbon Tax on all Chinese goods delivered to North America?pic.twitter.com/b34M8XxMfy
It would seem reasonable for any country with a carbon tax to apply that tax to imports coming from countries that did not have a similar carbon tax.
That might work: a C-Tax applied to all goods foreign & domestic shipped over 200km, based on a (f(x) of distance shipped, amount of carbon in transport, & ALL carbon inputs used in production of the goods, incl: from electricity inputs. The market/cost incentives w/b monstrouspic.twitter.com/d46tu8lKYq
In California we call this “Buy Clean” http://www.buycleanca.org
Many dangerous religions hide behind a veil of Empiricism; Cost-benefit analysis & Integrated Assessment models are two religions regularly held up as 'objective'. We cannot escape 'morality' & believing we can is itself a religion. Better that we open up our morals for critique.
Modelling is open to the scientific process. There's a strong move to #opendata and #openmodels, making assumptions and results more transparent. And I doubt that peer review is part of any major religion. Fully agree that any model has an underlying ideology, though.
Agree for the physical climate models, but not the IAMs (integrated assessment models). In my view these are riddled with religious assumptions, algorithms, central tenets, etc; many of which have been hidden & are seldom open to peer review by the non-IAM community. @Peters_Glen
Like most complex models, unless you wrote (or extensively use) the model, very hard to have a full overview. It is impossible to review a model in a couple of hours / days that you have for peer review. Basically, the results of models are peer reviewed, not the actual model.
Worth saying that the IAM community is starting to do a better job on transparency and documentation. This is very useful if you haven't seen it http://iamcdocumentation.eu/index.php/IAM
Sure, but then they don't release all the data in the SSP database (e.g., much less than the AR5 database). 1.5C database not released (yet), even though paper states it will be. But I can read up a bit on the models instead...,
The 1.5 database will be released after the SR is published, so not long to go now! Plus there's quite a bit of info in the underlying SSP papers. So I think things are improving on the whole, though I do agree it's not as clear as one would like.
The data is all available, they just decide not to give access to it all. They publish the data in papers (e.g., figures), just not in the database. I have a problem with this, but they have their reasons I guess.
This needs more thought. See the work of @DrMANowak and co. at Harvard, which I think hits the leading edge of climate and governance (and other issues as well). Example:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MOatZWZHwSJFCJZ5sMeqNsTvJ2Z7Bhdr/view?usp=sharing …
Elinor Ostrom's work on governing commons is on a similar theme. Common quality: make sure there's a vote before you set a price. The most efficient path may look like repeated iterations of this process:http://irishtimes.com/opinion/ireland-must-listen-to-citizens-assembly-on-climate-change-1.3515211 …
You can't build your way out of a governance problem. Either we learn to govern ourselves or we're cooked, by this crisis or the next. Tech doesn't matter if you can't govern. Problem in US is wealth opposed to governance, but that can evolve.https://www.opendemocracy.net/transformation/george-lakey/why-are-danes-so-happy-because-their-economy-makes-sense …
Economists kind of did us in, and now we have to dig our way out. It's crazy to be looking at $25B for a single harbor barrier, when 5% of that for national deliberative voting 25 years ago might have avoided entire problem.http://riverkeeper.org/blogs/ecology/storm-surge-barriers-for-ny-harbor-threaten-life-of-the-hudson-river/#.W0NeqNCri4Y.twitter …
We've been studying the 'bright spots' where people unify short and long-term time scales and work across sectors. Some of what we are finding is described here.https://ssir.org/articles/entry/the_magic_of_multisolving#bio-footer …
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