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Infectious diseases & genomics. Immunologist in (voluntary) exile. Minimal sarcasm. Fierce HOA (Hater of Acronyms).

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    Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

    We recently published two preprints that provide the strongest evidence yet that the COVID-19 pandemic began at a market selling live animals in Wuhan. An almost mirror-image of SARS just two decades earlier. https://zenodo.org/record/6291628  https://zenodo.org/record/6299600  Long 🧵 👇pic.twitter.com/LPr1zblf6r

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      2. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        Why do we believe the Huanan market was the origin? 1️⃣ Precedent 2️⃣ Clustering of hospitalizations, cases, deaths 3️⃣ Not a superspreading event 4️⃣ Two introductions 5️⃣ Susceptible animals sold 6️⃣ Clustering where animals were sold 7️⃣ Animal-associated objects ➕ Details 👇

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      3. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        Before I dive in, I want to answer the most important question - does this mean we have solved the origin of the pandemic? No, we have not. It is clear that it began at a market, but most everything upstream remains a black box and there's still a ton to do. More at the end 🧵.

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      4. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        📖 In the first preprint, led by @jepekar we show that: "SARS-CoV-2 emergence very likely resulted from at least two zoonotic events"https://zenodo.org/record/6291628 

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      5. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        📖 In the second preprint, led by @MichaelWorobey we show that: "The Huanan market was the epicenter of SARS-CoV-2 emergence"https://zenodo.org/record/6299600 

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      6. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        1️⃣ Precedent The emergence of SARS-CoV-2 looks a lot like that of SARS-CoV-1, especially: ✅ Virus similarity (both are sarbecoviruses) ✅ Timing (November 2002 vs November 2019) ✅ Host range (broad) ✅ Association with wet markets For example, compare...pic.twitter.com/lRicrRxUXH

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      7. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        The emergence of a novel coronavirus isn't exactly news - it happens frequently. Here's a sampling of the ones we know about 👇 . And, of course, since the beginning of the pandemic, many closely related viruses have been found, including BANAL-52: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04532-4 …pic.twitter.com/NaNJUi5yC8

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      8. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        These viruses are widespread all across South-East Asia because their reservoirs - horseshoe bats - are widely distributed, including, yes, in Hubei province. Importantly, virus diversity is massively undersampled. Excellent paper led by @SpyrosLytras: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abh0117 …pic.twitter.com/LjZCWIuzso

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      9. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        Kristian G. Andersen Retweeted Kristian G. Andersen

        If we go back to SARS1, we know that infected animals were found on farms in Hubei in both 2003 and 2004 - outside Wuhan. In fact, more SARS1 infected animals were found on Hubei farms than anywhere else in China - and Hubei supplied animals to Guangdong.https://twitter.com/K_G_Andersen/status/1488918972003094529?s=20&t=Lc1K_fAPVgT9VdVW8W-aIw …

        Kristian G. Andersen added,

        Kristian G. AndersenVerified account @K_G_Andersen
        Replying to @K_G_Andersen @halvorz
        Here are the confirmed sampling dates from the Hubei/Hunan farms where SARS1 infected animals were found: May 2003 (Hubei); January 2004 (Changsha, Hunan); April 2004 (Enshi, Hubei); September 2004 (Wufeng, Hubei) Most of it nicely summarized here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168170207001050 …
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      10. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        Interestingly, the SARS1 genomes from Hubei - unlikely those from Guangdong - are significantly closer to the SARS1 genomes from human patients. Were Hubei farms the potential source for SARS1 and SARS2? Maybe, but need much more research. References: https://twitter.com/K_G_Andersen/status/1488718228238974983?s=20&t=j-VcqV9tc-t9wMEEpVHFeg …pic.twitter.com/mUSkdR2rMc

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      11. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        Because SARS-CoV-2 became a pandemic virus and SARS-CoV-1 did not, we would expect to find some 'key' features in this virus. We discussed this in our "Proximal Origin" paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9 … And this review: https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(21)00991-0 …

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      12. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        Kristian G. Andersen Retweeted Kristian G. Andersen

        I previously did a lengthy thread on one of these features - the furin cleavage site. Some have suggested that the structure of this site is suggestive of engineering - that couldn't be further from the truth (quite the opposite).https://twitter.com/K_G_Andersen/status/1391507230848032772 …

        Kristian G. Andersen added,

        Kristian G. AndersenVerified account @K_G_Andersen
        The SARS-CoV-2 furin cleavage site is yet again in the news - this time because of a quote by Nobel laureate David Baltimore. The site is not a "smoking gun", nor does it "make a powerful challenge to the idea of a natural origin". Quite the opposite, so a little science 🧵👇 pic.twitter.com/Txc3sQYZSe
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      13. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        Kristian G. Andersen Retweeted Michael Worobey

        So why Wuhan? Another thread from @MichaelWorobey:https://twitter.com/MichaelWorobey/status/1438202006678630404 …

        Kristian G. Andersen added,

        Michael Worobey @MichaelWorobey
        1: A thread connecting the dots between: (1) @PeterDaszak et al's fascinating recent preprint on the *many* SARS-related CoV infections in humans per year in Southeast Asia, and (2) The furin cleavage site of SARS-CoV-2, and (3) Why Wuhan? https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.09.21263359v1 …
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      14. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        2️⃣ Clustering of hospitalizations, cases, deaths around the Huanan market @MichaelWorobey wrote an excellent perspective on the clustering of hospitalizations early in the pandemic that showed a *very* clear association to the Huanan market:https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm4454 …

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      15. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        Kristian G. Andersen Retweeted Kristian G. Andersen

        I previously talked about the clustering of cases and excess deaths when I did a (rather lengthy...) rundown of the @WHO mission report:https://twitter.com/K_G_Andersen/status/1376954932004196352 …

        Kristian G. Andersen added,

        Kristian G. AndersenVerified account @K_G_Andersen
        The long-awaited @WHO report on the "Global Study of Origins of SARS-CoV-2" is out. It's comprehensive, scientific, and provides new insights into early events - while still leaving questions open, with need for further study. https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus/origins-of-the-virus?fbclid=IwAR0Sc4F5RLvbug97Z-pLVQRLltb8JyZfPluMMwsb77i8NchuUoyDPMBdbIo … 🧵to follow later today👇. pic.twitter.com/PziAyiWB4N
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      16. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        In the first part of Worobey et al., we go much deeper on the "clustering" analysis: ✅ Early cases are clearly associated with the market ✅ Association is non-random and not a result of age/demographics ✅ The Huanan market was the early epicenter https://zenodo.org/record/6299600 pic.twitter.com/2N4aQwqsuL

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      17. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        We extracted early case locations from the WHO mission report, later (probable) case locations from Weibo, and created null models based on population density or Jan/Feb cases. No matter how we look at the data, the association is clear and non-random.pic.twitter.com/cZG3abk5QB

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      18. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        Further, the Huanan market is *the only* place in Wuhan where early cases had a clear association - there are no other epidemiological links to any other place in the city. All of that changed as the outbreak spread - then we see clear association based on demographics.pic.twitter.com/DyFNaMpeYb

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      19. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        3️⃣ Not a superspreading event Some have taken this to mean that the market was "merely a superspreading event". This is very unlikely: ✅ Clustering inside market ✅ Timing + multiple spillovers Further, the doubling rate in the market was ~3-4 days (estimated from WHO data👇)pic.twitter.com/ihSx7qEZ8a

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      20. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        4️⃣ Two introductions Let's hop over to Pekar et al., where we show that it's very likely that SARS-CoV-2 jumped multiple times (like SARS-CoV-1) - with one 'successful' lineage ("B") likely spilling over in late November and lineage "A" 1-2 weeks later.pic.twitter.com/iAehEVxLG1

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      21. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        One quick comment on "multiple spillovers" as some people find this exceedingly unlikely ("one spillover is unlikely, so two spillovers are much more unlikely"). This is not correct. We're dealing with conditional probability - one happens, two (and more) are likely to happen.

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      22. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        As Joel Wertheim put it - "we failed to climb Mount Everest for hundreds of thousands of years. And then, in just one day, two people did". This is the same. The "(un)likelihoods" are upstream of infected animals - with just the right virus - ending up in a market. Once done,💥pic.twitter.com/D9GM3aH9Qg

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      23. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        We have known for a while that two early lineages of SARS-CoV-2 existed - Lineage "A" and Lineage "B", using the PANGO naming convention. These two differ at two sites - 8272 ("A"=T; "B"=C) and 28144 ("A"=C; "B"=T) so "A" is T/C and "B" is C/T.https://zenodo.org/record/6291628 

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      24. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        Genomic data show that "intermediates" (C/C; T/T) between A and B may have existed during the early outbreak in Wuhan - suggesting that e.g., A evolved to B or B evolved to A in humans. However, we show that this likely wasn't the case - early intermediates are due to errors.pic.twitter.com/a3Nsnt2Ho2

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      25. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        Lineage A is closer to closely related viruses like RaTG13 and BANAL-52, however, we can't simply say that this means that A is the ancestor of B as some have done previously. E.g.,https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/38/12/5211/6353034 …

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      26. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        Trying to establish a rooted phylogeny of SARS-CoV-2 requires much more careful analysis than simply performing "outgroup" rooting (like ☝️). In Pekar et al., we performed several Bayesian analyses to estimate likely roots and also created a putative "common ancestor".pic.twitter.com/JmD3N8J1PR

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      27. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        Once we obtain proper (posterior) estimates of the early SARS-CoV-2 phylogeny - and incorporate factors such as sampling times and evolutionary models - we can simulate plausible scenarios of early virus diversity and compare to the diversity that was actually observed.

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      28. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        These analyses make it clear that it is *much* more likely that A and B resulted from independent spillovers - one did not evolve into the other in the human population. Further, our timing estimates show that B likely spilled over late-November and A a little after that.pic.twitter.com/bvbBEfxIuk

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      29. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        These findings need to be seen in the context of a clear geographical association of *both* Lineages A and B with the Huanan market.pic.twitter.com/7vtj7u50xX

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      30. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        Further, as we were wrapping up our preprints, Gao et al. posted a preprint showing that Lineage A was indeed present at the Huanan market - in an environmental sample ("A20"), no less.https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1370392/v1 …

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      31. Kristian G. Andersen‏Verified account @K_G_Andersen Mar 2

        We also don't see any evidence of intermediate genomes at the Huanan market in the Gao et al. preprint. We can therefore conclude: ✅ Both Lineage A and B found at Huanan market ✅ Early intermediates likely not real ✅ Very likely two independent spillovers at the Huanan marketpic.twitter.com/Sff11DRw5H

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