Questions to ask people who oppose grammar schools: 1. what kind of school did they attend? 2. what kind of school do their children attend?
absolutely agreed we should improve all schools for all kids. But that doesn't mean you can't have academic selection, does it?
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yes it does. Academic selection makes improvement much much harder. Hardens social divides and expectations.
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academic selection at age 11 is a stupid idea. Just crystallizes social divides
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There is no social divide between those who went to a grammar school or not.
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balderdash. Working class kids don't go to grammars, largely.
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you might as well forget the exams and just say 95% from white upper/middle class to grammar schools, rest to failure centers
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I just fundamentally disagree with it. Before the 11+ exams you know the demographic groups that will do well
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the evidence suggests otherwise.
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In practice yes it often does;particularly in urban areas where the effects on overall outcomes can be very damaging
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