@JuliaHB1 so what's next additional tax on chocolate , cakes then what ? I think your missing the point we do not require a nanny state .
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@shaunmc3105 you and I may not, but some people do. -
@JuliaHB1 agreed but we live in a democracy , I have no desire to be run as Russia or Korea . Education is the best cure . -
@shaunmc3105 but it doesn't always work.
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No. Every 10% rise in tobacco tax has resulted in 4% increase in sales of black-market fags. But: define "work" in this context.
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@th3Derek no it hasn't. -
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@JuliaHB1 - how could anyone tell if black-market sales changed, one way or the other? Sure, I was hand-waving, but so were you. -
@th3Derek I wasn't making any claim about the sales of cigarettes, I said the stats show a fall in the number of PEOPLE smoking. V different -
@JuliaHB1 Ok, noted. Could there be other factors, e.g. vaping? Got me off fags 2 years ago, and which govt now wants to tax (surprise!) -
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@JuliaHB1 folk buy contraband cigarettes in pubs so not a true figure. Prohibition laws soon for cherry Coke like in the untouchables

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@Ste_F1 I didn't say it cut purchase of legal cigarettes, I said it cut smoking. -
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@Ste_F1 those stats are from before vamping became a big thing. Vaping is cutting smoking even more. -
@JuliaHB1 agree but it's encouraging kids with cigarettes to take up both. A non smoking teen took up vaping because it looked cool
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@JuliaHB1 It doesn't matter whether it 'works' or not. If you want a nanny, hire one. Nobody voted for one. -
@lalonip the NHS is a key part of the nanny state. Don't you like that either? -
@JuliaHB1 I like the NHS. How much isn't going to cost them to sift through whether fat people got fat on sugary drinks or chips?
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