Yeah, isn't it awful that bright working class kids can get a first class education, just as my parents did?https://twitter.com/lucympowell/status/654408662136561664 …
@mrpaulorton working and middle class kids, like most grammars. Your point?
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@JuliaHB1 That Grammar schools are for the middle classes. They don't benefit the working classes and do nothing for social mobility. -
@mrpaulorton apart from the very many working class kids (like both my parents) whose lives were totally transformed by them? -
@JuliaHB1 anecdote policy on 1 case study. The rest of the population sank. Selection fails the majority of kids, particularly poorer ones -
@mrpaulorton no, children who failed 11+ didn't do any worse than if there had been no 11+ option. But kids who passed benefited.
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@mrpaulorton those stats are all based in current situation where mostly middle class. When my parents went, plenty of grammars. Not same. -
@JuliaHB1 So, your arguing that it worked 50 years ago. So we should bring it back. Against the evidence that it fails today. -
@mrpaulorton no, that we can bring back all the good aspects of grammar schools without having the bad ones -
@JuliaHB1 Ah bless!
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@JuliaHB1 In areas where Grammar schools still exist poor kid's outcomes worse than elsewhere relatively. -
@mrpaulorton I believe that the stats say the exact opposite actually -
@JuliaHB1@mrpaulorton because of the great work of the secondary moderns that they attend - not the success of Grammar Schools!!
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