The substance of a "Leave vs Remain" question is the relationship between us and the EU. The relationship remainers voted for was set by the treaties, whereas before the negotiations began, it was literally IMPOSSIBLE for leavers to know which relationship they were voting for.
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I agree and with respect to Julia, I was assured we would have a great deal with the EU & that EU Citizens and Brits in Europe would retain their current rights. I never voted for no deal. It was never positively backed during the referendum.
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Have you got a link to this, seems so unlikely...
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Here you go, Declan. The original is regularly updated and the date always reflects the latest modification. This, however is an archived version, dated 12/02/2016. Enjoy ! https://web.archive.org/web/20160316101713/http://leavehq.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=128 …
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Shocking, i"m a leaver but to say this is contradictory. As a small consolation, their page hasn't even got 5k followers..
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My generation were never never really taught what the EU was. It never came up in school. I voted leave because I wanted the NHS more funding as I’m disabled and wouldn’t ever be able to afford health insurance, I’ve changed my mind because the EU protect disability rights.
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Disability rights are part of UK law. You don’t need the EU for that.
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Which suggests UK sovereignty....
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Yes Martin.. and that should be everyone's fight to protect. Not sell it down the river to an increasingly federal EU
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That’s your fear. Not mine. The point being that it has been sold as an issue (sovereignty) but clearly this isn’t. Wouldn’t it be more prudent to focus attention closer to home? Follow the money perhaps...
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It's not fear when verhofstat has openly admitted it on camera
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As I said. It’s your fear not mine.
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Yes, whether it's No Deal, or EU Deal, you voted to have to abide by EU rules to trade, as the US has effectively just dropped out of the FTA running, but you'll no longer have an influence on those rules. Proud yet, Julia...?
@KimSJ@atatimelikethis@VesperUK@EuropeanPenguin -
So, the Brexit UK you voted for will be a vassal state to the EU's rules and a vassal 51st state to Bolton's hawkish wars... Moggins WILL be pleased!
@smilinglaura@Kean1S@nickynoo007@VeroVero777@tfoale@lunaperla@smilinglaura@ukskies@1ngaD@fascinatorfun@EK_EuropeanMove -
Don't be so silly Julia. We know you knew exactly what you were voting for as you've made a point of saying so. But there are thousands of Leave voters who've also made a point of saying they didn't know. So what's your problem? You are not THE 17.2 million. You are only ONE.
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And whether her idea of Brexit was the same as the ideas various Brexit politicians had is highly questionable .... There is a reason why they still can’t define what Brexit actually is beyond slogans....
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Time someone trawled through her endless QT appearances where she repeatedly referred to project fact as Project fear.
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Yes - but I have not the energy or time...
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