Well you sound like you've bought all govt comms lines hook line and sinker, Julia, even as someone squarely in favour of FTAs. Can I bring you back down to planet reality of how trade negs work and are structured? It's called naked self-interest. Let's not be naive pls
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Let me just ping this in the way of one former Aussie trade negotiator who i dare say might also find some of this analysis....a tad idealistic
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(1/2) I think you're both right, actually.
@JuliaHB1 is correct that negotiations are about cobbling together a deal that, in the aggregate, is a win-win.@AllieRenison is of course correct that both sides aim to achieve the most 'win' for themselves. -
(2/2) My concern with a US FTA for the UK right out of the Brexit gate has always been twofold: First, UK has struggled to articulate what a 'win' for it looks like. Second, the politics may make signing ANYTHING feel like a 'win' for a UK government with a lot to prove.
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It's odd how when looking at UK/USA FTA talks
@JuliaHB1 appears to understand the typical dynamics of international negotiations, yet she's apparently unable to apply that same level of understanding when considering the UK's negotiations with the EU.
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How on earth do other countries manage? Take New Zealand for example, 52nd largest economy, yet has FTA's with countries who's combined GDP is almost double that achieved by the mighty EU. Australia even more.
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Sadly you will never get through to the blinkered Remoaners. None as blind as those who do not want to see!
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I work on the principal that at least some must have the ability to learn.
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That's because the BBC view capitalism as a whole as zero sum. Their stupidity knows no bounds and sadly, neither does their influence.
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That’s because it’s a bubble - it’s not a real world company. Real world companies don’t pocket £4B/year, every year, regardless of the quality of their product, or performance of their staff..
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Terrifying, isn't it. Johnson and company intend selling us out to the US, lock, stock and barrel. We need out.
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But there's talk of sector by sector deals, which possibly aren't compliant with WTO rules but the US doesn't give a fig about that. Johnson is adopting the same attitude. His way or no way. Consequences are for the little folk not for him and his Brexiters.
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Corbyn is threatening vote of no confidence. If he wins then pot is really stirred. No-one knows what might happen then. General election seems inevitable, with Corbyn hoping he'll win and Johnson believing he can bully and charm the electorate to back him with a working majority
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It's nonsense. Genuinely: just wrong.
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