I think since Friday the key divide in this country is no longer Leave/Remain or North/South but between - People who think a late night screaming row between a couple is domestic abuse, and - People who’ve been married.
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You realise most victims of DV lie to police when questioned in such circumstances? No-one knows the full circumstances but someone screaming ‘get off me’ is enough to warrant intervention. Denying that is just obscene
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If heard my neighbours shouting I wouldn’t call the police, but if I heard someone screaming ‘get off me’, & then things smashing, I’d definitely call them. Politics is so polarised in the UK that many people are happy to defend ‘their side’, in any circumstances...
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I’m not assuming it was domestic abuse. I am fine with the police arriving, talking to them and at this point no further action being taken. I was arguing (I thought fairly clearly) that the neighbours' action was entirely reasonable and the way we *want* neighbours to behave.
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Reasonable as in making a recording of the row and flogging the recording to the press, that reasonable?
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Imagine it was, I dunno, Phillip Schofield instead of Johnson. In that instance there is no public interest in the privacy invasion. Would you be at all animated about his neighbours flogging the recording? Sure it’s hypothetical, but honestly, would you?
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Yes, I would. I’d be ‘animated’ whoever it was. I was animated when a couple recorded Princess Diana’s private telephone calls & flogged the tapes to the Sun. were you?
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I wasn’t animated, to be honest. Didn’t engage with it at all. It’s the sort of thing that happens all the time and isn’t really my cup of tea. And I’m pretty ordinary. Which makes me suspect some of this outrage may be manufactured. Not in your case, I’m sure.
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There is no argue about it being abuse or not. That is not the debate! The debate is people running down anyway who dares respond to concern and calls the police. I would rather call 999 just in case even if it wasn't abuse.
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But recording it and selling/gifting it to the Guardian is a tad far? Especially following the two's track record.
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I didn't mention that. I'm in two minds. I understand why it's dodgy but also the police denied attending before being handed evidence. At this point media seems the only way these mps get held accountable for anything.
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The police stated that the neighbours did the right thing and their opinion is the only one that matters!
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We all know better *now*. But that’s really not the point and, sadly, you know it.
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The limit is that there was a chance that something bad was happing surely you’d want someone to call the police just in case? Would you not call? We cannot know what happened but to be so cavities as to say it was nothing is just as unfounded as saying it was definitely abuse.
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Watching all these right-wing hacks trying to attack the neighbours for reporting what they thought was an assault rather than questioning the dubious character of our future PM is depressing. We really are in the sewer.
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‘We’ll have to agree to disagree’ is the clarion call of obstinate fools desperate to have the last word but know that if they tried to claim it, it would be woefully wide of the mark
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I think we need to agree to disagree on your points

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No I don’t think so.
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