I think since Friday the key divide in this country is no longer Leave/Remain or North/South but between - People who think a late night screaming row between a couple is domestic abuse, and - People who’ve been married.
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If someone screams ‘get off me?’ and you hear items smash, how do you know it wasn’t an assault? People have passionate, loud rows all the time, without one of them screaming ‘get off me!’ - if you get violently assaulted, how will you signal it’s not just a row?
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A 10 min row, her screaming about red wine on the sofa, him about his laptop, her shouting “get off me”... it sounds a LOT more likely that she was angry that he was trying to placate her as she threw crockery than that she was attacked by him, doesn’t it? But you know that.
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It truly doesn’t. Obviously it’s obfuscated by his fame but the act of calling cops is correct in context of those screams. If you’re ever assaulted at home, by stranger or man you know, how will you scream to differentiate? Will you have the wherewithal to specify assault?
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We’ll have to agree to disagree. The couple and the police both seem to think it wasn’t a case of domestic abuse, but obviously you know better.
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You realise most victims of DV lie to police when questioned in such circumstances? No-one knows the full circumstances but someone screaming ‘get off me’ is enough to warrant intervention. Denying that is just obscene
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If heard my neighbours shouting I wouldn’t call the police, but if I heard someone screaming ‘get off me’, & then things smashing, I’d definitely call them. Politics is so polarised in the UK that many people are happy to defend ‘their side’, in any circumstances...
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No Julia your ENTIRE position is insulting to victims of DV Victims scream at those assaulting them. Neighbours were right to call the police out of concern. Even you don't know if it was just an angry row
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But an hour ago, you were saying you’d have done exactly the same as the couple who called the police did...pic.twitter.com/sYTAyPvvrs
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Hearing a woman screaming, “Get off me!” repeatedly would make some people think she might be in trouble, Julia. This will test you. It will require empathy.
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people go around all the time screaming 'get off me' because noone is touching them in an unwelcomed manner.
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THEN PLEASE TELL ME EXACTLY WHY THEY NEVER ANSWERED THE DOOR WHEN SEVERAL KNOCKS ON THE DOOR WERE NOT ANSWERED. IS THAT NORMAL AND "WHY" IF IT WAS JUST A DOMESTIC THEY DIDN'T ANSWER.
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And are people expected to have x-ray vision to know that? The point is if you don't know, then better to call the police.
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Violence does not have to be physical and very often the victim is capable of rational thought and comment, doesn't mean there isn't violence. Assault as a crime is not necessarily physical but perception, ask Mark Fielding.
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Brain melting levels of cognitive dissonance here. You should stop now.
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So, MP attacks woman round throat because she might have a weapon = good in some quarters. People ringing police became a woman might be being attacked = wrong in some quarters. What is correct these days?
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Working for a DV charity, I would say you have very little understanding of domestic abuse/violence and would ask that you stop misinforming people
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You stupid stupid stupid woman. When a woman screams "get off me" AT A MAN she is being assaulted. Those of us who have uttered those words know. How DARE you attempt to normalise that. You are an enabler. Nothing less.
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She was assaulted behind closed doors. She screamed, 'Get off me'
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Are you going to state you're "not an expert" again? Because that would be a good place for all your statements to begin and end.
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Really, I do hope BJ and his wife can patch things up, she can support him campaign successfully against Corbyn! Should go back to his wife and not stay with a woman who told him to leave because of a wine stain. fhs! Values objects more than people or relationships!
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Ur name!
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