I think since Friday the key divide in this country is no longer Leave/Remain or North/South but between - People who think a late night screaming row between a couple is domestic abuse, and - People who’ve been married.
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Dear god. JHB I truly hope that if someone ever assaults you behind closed doors, people nearby respond to your screams of ‘get off me!’ rather than ignoring them. Yes, you sell shit-thick, cynical opinion for your supper. But you don’t deserve to be hurt while people turn away.
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Aw, that’s nice of you. So generous of you. She wasn’t assaulted behind closed doors. She was screaming and shouting at HIM. No evidence or substantive accusation of any abuse. Don’t conflate genuine violence with a couple’s angry row. It’s insulting to genuine victims of DV.
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If someone screams ‘get off me?’ and you hear items smash, how do you know it wasn’t an assault? People have passionate, loud rows all the time, without one of them screaming ‘get off me!’ - if you get violently assaulted, how will you signal it’s not just a row?
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A 10 min row, her screaming about red wine on the sofa, him about his laptop, her shouting “get off me”... it sounds a LOT more likely that she was angry that he was trying to placate her as she threw crockery than that she was attacked by him, doesn’t it? But you know that.
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It truly doesn’t. Obviously it’s obfuscated by his fame but the act of calling cops is correct in context of those screams. If you’re ever assaulted at home, by stranger or man you know, how will you scream to differentiate? Will you have the wherewithal to specify assault?
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We’ll have to agree to disagree. The couple and the police both seem to think it wasn’t a case of domestic abuse, but obviously you know better.
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You realise most victims of DV lie to police when questioned in such circumstances? No-one knows the full circumstances but someone screaming ‘get off me’ is enough to warrant intervention. Denying that is just obscene
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Screaming so loud three people called the police. Lefty plot, um, how would a person walking by know that it was the flat of Johnson's latest squeeze. What we've learned this week is that right-wing female commentators will excuse anything that right-wing men do. Good house elf.
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Calling the police understandable and correct. Recording it and contacting The Guardian? I dont see how anybody can argue this couple had a number of motives...
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Maybe a desire to see a completely unsuitable person not become Prime Minister of this country. Admirable.
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Exactly - and I’m sure the police would appreciate them recording the argument for potential evidence too...
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Julia was there. She saw the whole thing. And she has a secret tape. There’s nothing to see. Now move along you riff raff trying to get into the way of her dream that Boris will fulfil to Make Britain Great Again with the help of Tommy Robinson’s buddy Steve Bannon.
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This needed a wide angle lens. Now you see all that Julia said about her beloved Boris is so very true.https://twitter.com/coldwar_steve/status/1143120282959450114?s=21 …
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I guess you have to ask what would you have done in a similar situation.... ignored the screams, turned your TV up to drown them out, gone to see what’s up (what they did), called for help (what they did), gathered evidence just in case (what they did) - what would you have done?
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I know exactly what I would have done. I’d have banged on the door until someone answered. And I would have called the police if they didn’t. If I was concerned for a woman’s safety, I wouldn’t call a bloody newspaper to score a political point.
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But then I also wouldn’t campaign to have a neighbour move out because I didn’t agree with their political views. Would you?
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