So many Remainers seem to think that Leave voters are different from them and their circle of friends and family. Yet they probably know dozens of people they like & respect who voted Leave - but have kept quiet about it because they’d be labelled stupid or racist. 2/3
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What does it say about the state of our politics that so many people feel the need to hide how they voted when their views represent the MAJORITY view? No one should ever have to hide their political views in a free democracy. I’m proud to be a Brexiteer. Aren’t you? 3/3
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It is the same the other way round for remain voters, I feel I’ve had to be quiet for 2 1/2 years but I won’t anymore
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No you haven’t
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How do you know that?
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Why on earth have you felt the need to keep quiet about voting Remain? Explain.
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Because we have been told you lost get over it continuously. You say anything you get called a traitor and against democracy. I have family that got upset if I said anything so you feel you have to be quiet. Why can you not see both sides have been given a hard time?
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No one has called Remain voters “traitors”. I’ve never heard Leave voters attack Remain voters. The criticism has been of Remoaners who refuse to accept the result. Very different.
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Hi Julia, I keep asking, but get no reply. What benifits are there to leaving the EU that will improve the lives of you and your family. Not the propaganda, but a concrete benifit that says “this is better than it was before.” Anything?
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Free trade with growing economies around the world rather than being stuck in a customs union with EU economies. Free trade ALWAYS leads to better living standards. Did you really need me to point that one out?
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I suggest you read into this topic a little more. The barriers to trade with our largest and nearest partners in the EU won't nearly be compensated for by agreements we strike with the US or any other more distant economy.
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For two reasons. 1) Those other agreements never have come close to the depth of the EU's single market, and facilitating trade as freely, therefore, and 2) trade 'gravity', the tendency to trade disproportionately with those large and close.
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Wanting out for reasons of sovereignty or migration comtrol are fair enough [not reasons I share, but they are legitimate]. But wanting out to generate freer trade is self-contradictory.
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Trade gravity sounds like a suspiciously obscure econ concept. But it's one of the most robust findings from empirical econ I know about. Anyone who found a good reason to overturn it would quickly become a superstar Nobel candidate.
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It's effect has not really diminished over time either, even as the weightless, technological economy has advanced. The same invisible forces that produce it are the ones that bring people together everywhere in cities and towns. Trade gravity is all around us.
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So, to recap, 1) even if we wanted and were able to, FTA's as free as the single market would not make up for lost EU trade. Not even nearly. 2) we won't want to [check out the Labour Party and Redkippers' feeds!] and won't be able to strike such deep FTAs.
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Do you know what really annoys me? The constant manipulative messaging to divide people into brexits and remainers. We all share the same country and the national interest is paramount.
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#brexit is no longer primarily about whether the UK leaves the EU as it is now a front line fight against the global rise in fascism and a return of political integrity in the UK.#FBPE@TheIndGroup@UKLabour@Conservatives@TheGreenParty@LibDems@theSNP#FBPE
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