This is a quite spectacularly banal point. The whole point of private schools is that they're not open. Hence the name.https://twitter.com/tpgcolson/status/1105077816935227392 …
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Sure, but you'd need to increase taxes somewhere to pay for the quadruple spend increase on public school kids to match private kids so as to equalise standards, opportunities and facilities (which I have no problem with, personally).
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State schools definitely need more funding but I really don’t think money is the key. It’s more about expectations and social norms.
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Keep mum with the kids, if possible.
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I'd feel like state schools would struggle to replicate the social exclusion of minorities that some, possibly you, are looking for. Faith schools do try though.
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Faith school do indeed. I couldn’t care less what other pupils in my daughter’s class look like or their religious faith.
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But a school that can choose the naturally bright kids, usually with stable parent(s) to develop them & pay to get the best teachers has a huge advantage. A better argument is that good private schools should have to share their recourses & skills with neighbouring state schools.
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Absolutely, our children have many different advantages. I chose private purely for the grammar style education ethos. If private schools want to enjoy the tax benefit of charitable status then they should share resources, yes.
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Good private schools already do share. The major difference I have experienced is not actually facilities it's the class sizes and strict approach to discipline. In that environment, even average or challenging kids can do really well.
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What about grammar schools? My local one takes less far less pupils on free school meals than the average and all the kids I know who go there went to private primary schools.
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Of course it does. How do you think all those kids growing up in homes with parents on benefits/minimum wage and going to the local primary school are going to reach the level needed to pass the exams to get in? Primary schools aren’t teaching to that standard.
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I agree and my point is that before anyone vilifies private schools they need to have a good look at how socially exclusive many grammars and faith schools are.
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It's the private school social networking which sets kids up for life, not the actual education. It's the only way to explain Amber Rudd anyway...
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No it’s not. It’s being in a class of kids whose parents all expect good behaviour and high standards.
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I say Susie and yourself are both correct, nepotism is rife but so are parents who don't give a flying fart about their child's behaviour.....
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I don't think the nepotism thing is as significant as you think. The advantages I gained from my own education have not included entry into an old boys network in all industries. And, shock horror, most parents want the best for their children.
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No it is quite bad, bad is the wrong word, let's use common instead..... and of course parents want the best for their kids. Hey if I could get my kids into Eton and use the contacts to parachute them into top jobs..... I would. I personally don't hold it against them...
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Eton is a tiny percentage of the total of children at private schools. Nepotism isn't such a big thing. And the comment about most parents wanting the best was in response to Julia's notion that this is a private school thing.
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I used that as an easy example..... nepotism is everywhere... I have no issue with it. Ps I actually agree with most you have said. Personal ability and hunger for success shines through the majority of the time.
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Perhaps we shouldn't generalise. I agree that most parents rightly do what's best for their children and my point wasn't to make a judgement, just an observation of benefit of private school from the outside.
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Well Norway and Finland pretty much banned private schools, upped state investment and made sure the schools policy approach was opposite of what we do in the UK. The result is one of the best educations in the world.
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How much poverty, deprivation, neglect is in those countries compared to UK. For kids to flourish home life is just as important them school life if not more so
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Yes, there are plenty of other contributing factors, but we’re not taking about home life etc. We are talking about a proven educational strategy. Might be an idea to learn from it.
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