No, it was the Remoaner minority’s refusal to accept Brexit which has poisoned British political life. If everyone had accepted the result of the democratic vote, the country could have united around Brexit. https://twitter.com/helenlewis/status/1012297844840189958 …
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I think the vote was 63 37 or something similar... so much more conclusive... and the use of foreign money and at best half truths didn’t happen. So the two votes are very different.
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If only everyone had "accepted" the 75 referendum would political life be poisoned?
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Absolutely. I voted Remain in 1975 and straight after the vote there were already right and left wing nutters plotting away for another Referendum. They certainly didn't respect my will then to remain.
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If the shires want to take away my European citizenship on the back of a deeply flawed and corrupt referendum - perhaps London, Manchester, Liverpool, Bristol, Oxbridge, and Scotland should leave the UK?
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Don't forget N Ireland, we also voted Remain (not that anyone realises since the DUP has hijacked the result).
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Sorry lots of other places I didn't have characters to mention! Brighton, Cardiff, N. Ireland, and if max fac is as efficient as the Brexiteers claim any area with more than 100k people should be able to leave...
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Norwich was a remain outcome please don’t forget us
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Sorry! Anyway once the magical max fac is available everywhere that wants to be in can be?
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I didn’t say that. I said I don’t remember how it was.
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You made a really good point and Julia knows it .
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Why haven’t you answered the ladies’ questions?
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It’s really ok. She’s only interested in point scoring anyway.
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I’m a passionate remainer but she has a point about the earlier referendum. I think we probably shouldn’t have had one then either. But I don’t think it was possible for a party to propose joining Europe and making it a GE issue.
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You are probably right. And I don’t know enough about it because it happened when I was a child. I should educate myself.
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The answer is that we shouldn't have had a referendum in 1975 either. Harold Wilson called it as a political trick, to shut up his enti-EEC critics in the Labour Party. The never-original Cameron tried to ape the trick, but as he wasn't a political master like Harold he failed.
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The '75 campaign wasn't anything like the '16 one. Enoch Powell tried to play the race card, but the economic case was dominant.
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The issues in 1975 were entirely different. And there was a little more respectful and intelligent debate on both sides.
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Referendums are only democratically binding when people vote on an informed choice. Yes or No is not an informed choice. Present an informed choice and let people vote.
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Just answer the question the person asked rather than reframing it into the question you want. She wasn't there and it is not a point of reference.
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