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Mathematician specializing in number theory. Preferred pronouns: he/him but doesn't mind they/them.

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    1. El Sandifer, Rationality Expert to the Stars‏ @ElSandifer Mar 23

      El Sandifer, Rationality Expert to the Stars Retweeted Jax Romana, Antifire Woke Brigade 🌹 🌈

      The underlying anxiety of the Basilisk, once you strip the deranged assumptions about quantum selfhood and acausal trade out of it, is that the AI god, even when programmed to be "friendly," will decide that you're a fucking tool and bully you.https://twitter.com/RuffleJax/status/1374052656952569865 …

      El Sandifer, Rationality Expert to the Stars added,

      Jax Romana, Antifire Woke Brigade 🌹 🌈 @RuffleJax
      Your daily reminder that Roko of Roko's Basilisk is a known abuser and alt-right weirdo, and he created the Basilisk as something he would be afraid of. The Basilisk is good. Roko, not so much.
      13 replies 60 retweets 224 likes
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    2. El Sandifer, Rationality Expert to the Stars‏ @ElSandifer Mar 23

      There's a lot of versions of this, but it's telling that the underlying anxiety is structured equivalently to "I'm opposed to racism and all that but what if once they're not oppressed anymore all the brown people decide to take their stuff back?"

      2 replies 13 retweets 89 likes
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    3. El Sandifer, Rationality Expert to the Stars‏ @ElSandifer Mar 23

      Right down to the future consequences. "What if white people become a minority and then our descendants have the benefits of white supremacism stripped away from them?"

      1 reply 0 retweets 55 likes
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    4. El Sandifer, Rationality Expert to the Stars‏ @ElSandifer Mar 23

      And at the heart of it remains the pathological fear of death. From Yudkowsky's "I must defeat death by being reincarnated on a computer" to the reactionary's "white capitalist culture must endure even the death of the sun."

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    5. Joshua Z‏ @JoshuaZed1 Mar 23
      Replying to @ElSandifer

      I disagree with you on a lot of your takes about the rationalists, but even by your standards this seems to be going out of your way to be uncharitable to them. This is an attempted emotional smear using what is an incredibly twisted, superficial comparison.

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    6. El Sandifer, Rationality Expert to the Stars‏ @ElSandifer Mar 23
      Replying to @JoshuaZed1

      I mean the fact that Roko turned full fash does kind of smooth the connection.

      1 reply 0 retweets 19 likes
    7. David Gerard  🐍 👑  🌷‏ @davidgerard Mar 24
      Replying to @ElSandifer @JoshuaZed1

      and was always a misogynist racist, according to people who went to university with him

      1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
    8. El Sandifer, Rationality Expert to the Stars‏ @ElSandifer Mar 24
      Replying to @davidgerard @JoshuaZed1

      Yeah, at this point I'm of the view that the biggest problem with Neoreaction a Basilisk is that I was far too credulous of the rationalists' claims of distance between themselves and fascism. They were always a reactionary project. Yudkowsky was just too gullible to notice.

      3 replies 5 retweets 21 likes
    9. Joshua Z‏ @JoshuaZed1 Mar 24
      Replying to @ElSandifer @davidgerard

      El, I find this attitude to be saddening. I remember being on good terms with you many years ago, and it really does seem that you've developed a hatred for a group of generally well meaning people and allowed that hatred to twist any evidence to suit a negative view of them.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. David Gerard  🐍 👑  🌷‏ @davidgerard Mar 24
      Replying to @JoshuaZed1 @ElSandifer

      joshua, they've literally always been massive racists. The story I told in the IDSG about the chat down the pub, the guy was trying to bring me round to Rationalism and went into a pile of completely BS race and IQ as part of his pitch.

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      Joshua Z‏ @JoshuaZed1 Mar 24
      Replying to @davidgerard @ElSandifer

      One ass is not a representative sample. This is an incredibly diverse group of people (both in terms of beliefs and thoughts, as well as in terms of racial, ethnic, sex, gender, ideological backgrounds). One doesn't need to agree with them to see them much more charitably.

      3:39 PM - 24 Mar 2021
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        2. El Sandifer, Rationality Expert to the Stars‏ @ElSandifer Mar 24
          Replying to @JoshuaZed1 @davidgerard

          One can, however, notice that the rationalism to fascism pipeline exceeds "gee that's weird" thresholds and is clearly a thing. And one can look at why the movement has the money to be prestigious and see how this might have come to be.

          2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
        3. El Sandifer, Rationality Expert to the Stars‏ @ElSandifer Mar 24
          Replying to @ElSandifer @JoshuaZed1 @davidgerard

          Again, I don't think Yudkowsky is running a fascist project *intentionally*. I just also think he's too convinced of his own infallibility to realize that he's been used to create a radicalization pipeline.

          1 reply 0 retweets 15 likes
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        2. Real Americans are Anti-Fascist.‏ @athie_gnome Mar 24
          Replying to @JoshuaZed1 @davidgerard @ElSandifer

          All the available evidence (including lots of my lurking, the SSC survey, etc.) suggests that the Yud/Scott world was exceptionally homogeneous in virtually every way you just mentioned.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. Joshua Z‏ @JoshuaZed1 Mar 24
          Replying to @athie_gnome @davidgerard @ElSandifer

          I'm puzzled as to how you are getting that from say the data here https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd4I-x9oArWW1Tz5mEK4uHmxcJzVKGA28RfKPsDvW8hzZNViw/viewanalytics … . Look for example at the political pie chart, or look at how the percent transgender in the survey is more than 3 times that of the general population. Many white males, but many others.

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