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    1. Jordan Sack‏ @JordanTSack Jul 8

      Shapiro’s adherence to the claim that science is a product of judeo-Christian society is baffling to me. I’ve heard him make this argument so many times, yet it still strikes me just as incoherent as the first time.

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    2.  🤣 🤔 🤓Adam Chavez‏ @adamchavez Jul 8
      Replying to @JordanTSack

      I haven't heard Shapiro. But I believe the argument boils down to: - Christianity advocates for the uncoupling of truth (both morally & scientifically) from authority (i.e. State, King, etc.) - Therefore, Christianity is the only religion that plants the seeds of its takedown.

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    3. Jordan Sack‏ @JordanTSack Jul 8
      Replying to @adamchavez

      He makes the claim that morality, as well as science come out of judeo Christian values. To be clear I’m not arguing against Christianity. I think the stories are absolutely beautiful, especially the garden of eden. I would say Buddhism plants the seeds of its own takedown.

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    4.  🤣 🤔 🤓Adam Chavez‏ @adamchavez Jul 8
      Replying to @JordanTSack

      If that’s his argument, then how does he explain the non-Christian, non-Jewish world’s use of, and discoveries in, science? Do you have a link? Curious.

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    5. Jordan Sack‏ @JordanTSack Jul 8
      Replying to @adamchavez

      https://youtu.be/bdUC8nRVyYY  Begins around 19.00

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    6.  🤣 🤔 🤓Adam Chavez‏ @adamchavez Jul 8
      Replying to @JordanTSack

      Just listened. I didn’t hear him make the argument you suggest. Maybe I missed it? What he said was that only the Judeo-Christian philosophy has resulted in a civilization that valued individuals, as having worth, freedoms, rights, etc.

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    7.  🤣 🤔 🤓Adam Chavez‏ @adamchavez Jul 8
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      He says it came from the idea that every individual is created in the image of God. And he also makes the point that he is making this argument based on the historical record.

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    8.  🤣 🤔 🤓Adam Chavez‏ @adamchavez Jul 8
      Replying to @adamchavez @JordanTSack

      Harris responds by saying that argument is flawed. “Just b/c no other philosophy *has* created that, doesn’t mean no they philosophy *can*”

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      Jordan Sack‏ @JordanTSack Jul 8
      Replying to @adamchavez

      Yeah he doesn’t bring up science in this one, but he often does. He just chalks up everything after the judeo-Christian tradition began to being only attainable through it. Which obviously is a historical record fallacy. This is my critique with #idw, why no growth?

      6:56 PM - 8 Jul 2018
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        2.  🤣 🤔 🤓Adam Chavez‏ @adamchavez Jul 8
          Replying to @JordanTSack

          Ah, yeah, I could see that. On #idw, Harris is in the #idw - he definitely would argue against that point. I imagine Weinstein would also. PS Harris's (& my) understanding is that #IDW is short-hand for "people who have long-form intellectual discussions & post them on YouTube"

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        3. Jordan Sack‏ @JordanTSack Jul 8
          Replying to @adamchavez

          Yeah that’s about right. As an observer, it seems odd that almost no one says anything like “oh thats a good point, I never thought of it like that.. I’ll have to think about that.” Why is that so out of bounds. I’ve really only seen JBP do that.

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        4.  🤣 🤔 🤓Adam Chavez‏ @adamchavez Jul 8
          Replying to @JordanTSack

          Agree. Have noticed that too. Must be b/c JBP is the one.pic.twitter.com/Nqt7KEWSh6

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        1.  🤣 🤔 🤓Adam Chavez‏ @adamchavez Jul 8
          Replying to @JordanTSack

          Btw, IDK the reference "why no growth?" :D

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