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    1. Secular Talk‏Verified account @KyleKulinski 23 Dec 2019
      Replying to @mtracey

      I see a hell of a lot about Ukraine & the withheld aid etc in article 1 here my guy.https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/10/us/politics/articles-impeachment-document-pdf.html …

      9 replies 6 retweets 103 likes
    2. Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey 23 Dec 2019
      Replying to @KyleKulinski

      Michael Tracey Retweeted Michael Tracey

      The article says Trump "betrayed the Nation" and the Judiciary Committee report defines "betraying the nation" as committing treason to benefit a country with whom we are in a state of war (Russia)https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1206780602608996352 …

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      Michael TraceyVerified account @mtracey
      So essentially, House Democrats have accused Trump of "treason" (see left) but are too cowardly to state this explicitly in the articles of impeachment (see right) -- but the direct inference is there for all to see pic.twitter.com/D5TkneMCLR
      10 replies 6 retweets 103 likes
    3. Secular Talk‏Verified account @KyleKulinski 23 Dec 2019
      Replying to @mtracey

      Dude what? The thing you cite on the left isn't in the articles. And the thing on the right you underline goes on to say "...by abusing his high office to enlist a foreign power in corrupting democratic elections" -- that's about Ukraine not Russia!

      10 replies 8 retweets 143 likes
    4. Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey 23 Dec 2019
      Replying to @KyleKulinski

      The thing on the left is from the House Judiciary Committee report. That's the committee which drafted the articles of impeachment. They wrote a report to explain why they wrote the articles in the way they did, and it's absolutely littered with militaristic Cold War BS.pic.twitter.com/SZVMoAA3ZL

      5 replies 11 retweets 103 likes
    5. Secular Talk‏Verified account @KyleKulinski 23 Dec 2019
      Replying to @mtracey

      Article one in its final version as I sent you very clearly is referring to him withholding the allotted aid from Ukraine for personal gain. He definitely did that and it definitely makes sense to vote yes on that article.

      15 replies 5 retweets 116 likes
    6. Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey 23 Dec 2019
      Replying to @KyleKulinski

      Only if you're willing to endorse the Cold War premises and Russiagate fantasies that the *drafters of the impeachment articles* explicitly cited as their rationale for why they drafted the articles the way they did. I'm glad at least one member of Congress saw through this BSpic.twitter.com/9fkqCV5AgN

      12 replies 14 retweets 121 likes
    7. Secular Talk‏Verified account @KyleKulinski 23 Dec 2019
      Replying to @mtracey

      1-If it's BS vote no, not present (as I would do on art 2) 2-I just told you I'm not accepting the cold war premise but I still vote yes on article 1. No need to tell me how I feel about it 3-Idc about their rationalizations. Art 1 as I sent you is clearly abt Ukraine & he did it

      14 replies 9 retweets 144 likes
    8. Secular Talk‏Verified account @KyleKulinski 23 Dec 2019
      Replying to @KyleKulinski @mtracey

      4- Reading article 1 on its own divorced from why they say they did it, it's obviously about withholding allotted aid from Ukraine for personal gain, which he clearly did. Stupefied that you can't admit that.

      8 replies 8 retweets 118 likes
    9. Jordan‏Verified account @JordanChariton 23 Dec 2019
      Replying to @KyleKulinski @mtracey

      Michael has a mental block when it comes to nuanced thinking that processes 2 thoughts simultaneously 1) RussiaGate is bs 2) Trump withheld aid in order to extract political favor. Acknowledging #2 has nothing to do with Russiagate or Dems’ impeachment motives

      7 replies 9 retweets 63 likes
    10. Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey 23 Dec 2019
      Replying to @JordanChariton @KyleKulinski

      You can theoretically separate #2 from #1 but the articles of impeachment explicitly fuse them together, as evidenced by a huge body of evidence, including the text of the actual impeachment articles. So #1 and #2 are inseparable in the context of this impeachment vote.

      7 replies 3 retweets 21 likes
      Jordan‏Verified account @JordanChariton 23 Dec 2019
      Replying to @mtracey @KyleKulinski

      I read both articles. There’s nonsense on Russia in there but Article 1 is pretty clear in describing Trump and Ukraine. Your argument hinges on semantics—a lawmaker shouldn’t vote yes on clear wrongdoing by the president when it comes to Ukraine bc there’s stuff in the articles

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        2. Jordan‏Verified account @JordanChariton 23 Dec 2019
          Replying to @JordanChariton @mtracey @KyleKulinski

          About Russia. That’s nonsensical. Any politician—Tulsi included—can vote yes on article 1 while voicing there position that Russia has nothing to do with impeachment and Russiagate is propaganda. You seem to, I think unintentionally, be fine to ignore

          1 reply 1 retweet 14 likes
        3. Jordan‏Verified account @JordanChariton 23 Dec 2019
          Replying to @JordanChariton @mtracey @KyleKulinski

          The president dangling foreign aid over another country unless that country announces an investigation on his political opponents. I don’t like Joe Biden, but the fact that it’s him is irrelevant. You shouldn’t be giving Trump a pass on gross misconduct based on semantics

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        2. Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey 23 Dec 2019
          Replying to @JordanChariton @KyleKulinski

          "Semantics" are pretty important when you are voting to approve a specific text in the form of impeachment articles. Trump deserves to be penalized but not through a mechanism that relies on Cold War / Russiagate hysterics and valorizes the permanent security state bureaucracy.

          1 reply 4 retweets 37 likes
        3. ubiq‏ @ubiqunity 26 Dec 2019
          Replying to @mtracey @JordanChariton @KyleKulinski

          I get so extremely tired of blowhards hectoring others about their supposed lack of nuance.

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        1. df92‏ @dfab92 23 Dec 2019
          Replying to @JordanChariton @mtracey @KyleKulinski

          But that's not the only thing in this article, you don't get to ignore the inconvenient for your narrative stuff.

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        1.  🇨🇦 Sauron‏ @Nemesis4All 23 Dec 2019
          Replying to @JordanChariton @mtracey @KyleKulinski

          Hey Jordan, totally agree with you but I feel it’s useless arguing with the Tulsi cult because they’ll defend anything she’ll do. Michael comes across as being a contrarian just for argument sake.

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