I think @JordanChariton has the correct take on this. Demonetization is not censorship and you are wrong to dismiss Maza's complaints because you disagree with his politics or publications.
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No Jordan is wrong. Maza campaigned for de-platforming of someone *he* disagrees with. He himself has a big platform where he could put the other party on blast without pushing YouTube to use its sweeping tool. *ALL* Speech should be free until it calls for physical violence.
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but he DOES STILL HAVE FREE SPEECH. Why is this so hard to understand? He is not kicked off the platform. He is free right now to go live and spew bigotry. Free speech IS NOT THE SAME THING as making money off of free speech.
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Replying to @JordanChariton @JTrelan and
Jordan, whenever you do a video you try to get more people to donate or become members because if they don't, you can't do your job as effectively, or perhaps at all if things get bad enough. So money is very important when it comes to doing political commentary and/or reporting.
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Replying to @XSiveVerbosity @JordanChariton and
What you are wishing for is that Crowder's money gets cut off, resulting hopefully in him not being able to reach as many people, perhaps not reach anyone. That's pretty much the same, if you achieve the desired result, as just taking him off the platform entirely.
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Replying to @XSiveVerbosity @JTrelan and
The difference is I don’t use homophobic slurs against individuals and Crowder does. I don’t get this mentality of feeling sympathetic bigots can’t profit off their bigotry.
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Replying to @JordanChariton @XSiveVerbosity and
There is a difference bw a bigot being demonitized for targeted bigotry and harassment against individuals and INNOCENT hosts and journalists being demonitized. People should be outraged by the latter-not the former
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Replying to @JordanChariton @JTrelan and
Did you just use the word sympathetic to describe my feelings toward Crowder? That doesn't apply for the same reasons Tulsi's feelings toward Assad cannot accurately be described as "sympathetic."
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Replying to @XSiveVerbosity @JordanChariton and
Also, you say you aren't a bigot and you're innocent, and I see that as true. But the people who actually make these decisions about who gets penalized don't see it my way. They may think you're as bad, in your own way, as a bigot b/c you're doing "Russian propaganda"
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Replying to @XSiveVerbosity @JTrelan and
YES I AGREE WITH YOU. This is why I have said instead of people all bitching that someone like Crowder is being penalized—for which HE SHOULD BE (you try being a gay person having a host with millions of viewers targeting you by name)—free speech warriors need to focus on the
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THE REAL PROBLEM...the total lack of coherent and consistent policies and principles these Silicon Valley companies have—which creates arbitrary and draconian purging. THIS is the problem and reason people need to organize—not when people that SHOULD be penalized get penalized
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Replying to @JordanChariton @JTrelan and
I agree with that much. Until and unless these platforms change, though, getting a bigot demonetized is gonna result in a lot of collateral damage. And I think that's worse than doing nothing.
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