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Designer/Programmer of Braid and The Witness. President, Thekla, Inc. Partner in IndieFund. Currently working on good new things.

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    1. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 22

      Here is all the junk that a tiny indie pixel game has to do just to think about building a Linux executable: https://utopixel.games/en/blog/building-outer-wonders-for-linux/ … Windows used to be much better, but their modern spirit of embracing Linux seems to lead them to add similar problems to Windows.

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    2. Phil Urich‏ @philurich May 22
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow

      Eh, it all depends on your starting position, I've personally had far worse issues getting something compiled to be runnable across all current Windows versions and possible setups than Linux. Doesn't help that MS's official dev tools require libraries Windows doesn't ship with!

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    3. mcboogerballz  📦‏ @mcboogerballz2 May 22
      Replying to @philurich @Jonathan_Blow

      not anymore. directx, xaudio2, xinput etc are bundled with windows now.

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    4. Phil Urich‏ @philurich 23h23 hours ago
      Replying to @mcboogerballz2 @Jonathan_Blow

      Uhhh sure but you know what isn't? *The basic DLLs*, you still need to redistribute the Visual Studio C++ libs in one way or another, if you make even the simplest program with Visual Studio you need to distribute more than just the output .exe file, which blows my mind everyday.

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    5. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow 23h23 hours ago
      Replying to @philurich @mcboogerballz2

      But ... you also need to do this on Linux?? The difference is, on Windows, once you add the redistributable, it will actually work and not burden the end-user. (And, you can avoid the redistributable by statically linking libc, though that is more annoying than should be.)

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    6. Phil Urich‏ @philurich 23h23 hours ago
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @mcboogerballz2

      I mean it depends, if you're linking just against glibc then not necessarily. I certainly download bare ELFs that were compiled against glibc sometimes and can't remember the last time that didn't just work. Of course it can get more complicated fast, but MS's tools *start" there

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      Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow 23h23 hours ago
      Replying to @philurich @mcboogerballz2

      It already doesn't work for us with our compiler, and users are complaining.

      5:10 PM - 22 May 2021
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