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Designer/Programmer of Braid and The Witness. President, Thekla, Inc. Partner in IndieFund. Currently working on good new things.

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    1. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @RihoKroll @mattgperry and

      The job of engineers is to solve problems. If those problems don't get solved, it is because people didn't solve them.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    2. Riho Kroll‏ @RihoKroll Apr 29
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @mattgperry and

      It's not an engineering problem. You can write an amazing new browser tomorrow, but if it doesn't display 90% of the web pages properly, and doesn't handle accessibility and different device types/screens, nobody will keep using it. How do you get people to adopt that?

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Riho Kroll‏ @RihoKroll Apr 29
      Replying to @RihoKroll @Jonathan_Blow and

      I mean for the sake of the argument, lets forget about compatibility for a moment, say through some miracle this new browser just works, or at least with most modern pages. You still have to convince people to switch. "It's better" doesn't work, ask Mozilla.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @RihoKroll @mattgperry and

      Only if the switch is discontinuous. It is actually not that hard, given WASM etc, to envision a series of transformations that, for example, removes JS from the browser entirely. It only requires will.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    5. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @RihoKroll and

      Once you remove JS from the browser, now the Web is no longer based on an error-prone slow programming language, so it's a lot more natural for people to choose higher-quality languages (as opposed to hacks on top of JS like TypeScript).

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @RihoKroll and

      Then once you have real programming languages, why do you have all this DOM stuff and wtf is CSS for anyway, just let peoples' code lay out the text, and get rid of all that junk.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    7. Matt Perry‏ @mattgperry Apr 29
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @RihoKroll and

      “Wtf is CSS for” just about sums this up

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @mattgperry @RihoKroll and

      If you don’t understand how awful and embarrassing CSS is, it’s going to be very difficult for me to figure out anything else to say. I can just refer you to:

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @mattgperry and

      Jonathan Blow Retweeted Casey Muratori

      (this subthread by Casey, which I also agree with):https://mobile.twitter.com/cmuratori/status/1387634832880984064 …

      Jonathan Blow added,

      Casey Muratori @cmuratori
      Replying to @RihoKroll @Jonathan_Blow @eXodiquas
      My main complaint is actually that the web fails at both simultaneously. If browsers actually provided high-quality page layout and rendering, flawless UI integration with the host, polished widgets, etc., I perhaps wouldn't be as upset that they are also excruciatingly slow.
      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @mattgperry and

      And then the other thing to understand is, the use case of CSS is not how it is used today. Both HTML and CSS were designed for a different vision of what Web documents were supposed to be, that isn’t the one that won out on the market. As a result they are totally inappropriate

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
      Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @mattgperry and

      for the way they are being used today. The whole situation is dumb, just kill it with fire.

      1:15 PM - 29 Apr 2021
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        2. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @mattgperry and

          If you want to have a charitable conversation, I can do that, but trying to make me look dumb just makes you look dumb to those who actually understand computers well. I don’t recommend that tactic (also it is a waste of everyone’s time).

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
        3. Corentin ⬡‏ @MuiniCorentin Apr 29
          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @mattgperry and

          I think you should consider ease of use into the equation. JavaScript is easy to learn & use. HTML & CSS (& SVG) allows to do advanced UI quickly and nicely, it's a very powerful toolbox. There is no alternative. Even WASM is not necessarily faster than using vanilla js.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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