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Designer/Programmer of Braid and The Witness. President, Thekla, Inc. Partner in IndieFund. Currently working on good new things.

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    1. Riho Kroll‏ @RihoKroll Apr 29
      Replying to @RihoKroll @Jonathan_Blow and

      I mean for the sake of the argument, lets forget about compatibility for a moment, say through some miracle this new browser just works, or at least with most modern pages. You still have to convince people to switch. "It's better" doesn't work, ask Mozilla.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @RihoKroll @mattgperry and

      Only if the switch is discontinuous. It is actually not that hard, given WASM etc, to envision a series of transformations that, for example, removes JS from the browser entirely. It only requires will.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    3. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @RihoKroll and

      Once you remove JS from the browser, now the Web is no longer based on an error-prone slow programming language, so it's a lot more natural for people to choose higher-quality languages (as opposed to hacks on top of JS like TypeScript).

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    4. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @RihoKroll and

      Then once you have real programming languages, why do you have all this DOM stuff and wtf is CSS for anyway, just let peoples' code lay out the text, and get rid of all that junk.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @RihoKroll and

      There will of course be common libraries for doing this, so that people don't have to write it themselves. But the difference is, when it's just user-level code doing the layout, you have the power to change it. When it is built into the browser, you do not, and instead

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    6. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @RihoKroll and

      have to engage in endless hacks that almost but don't quite solve the problem, like everyone does today.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. Riho Kroll‏ @RihoKroll Apr 29
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @mattgperry and

      Eh, that'd just make it harder to make apps and require more experience to make something good. I think it's too hard to make good apps as it is, even with a perfect understanding of the platform. I'd want it be easier to make good experiences.

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    8. Riho Kroll‏ @RihoKroll Apr 29
      Replying to @RihoKroll @Jonathan_Blow and

      Also the only good part (as far as I'm concerned) of DOM, is that it's a common vocabulary between a lot of people and therefore standards can be enforced and promoted. If everyone is flying a custom display tree impl. it'll be even harder to do stuff like screen readers, for ex.

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    9. Riho Kroll‏ @RihoKroll Apr 29
      Replying to @RihoKroll @Jonathan_Blow and

      Which people neglect as it is, even with the standards. But at the very least people are forced to use image tags for images for example (to an extent). Code editors can even warn of missing alt descriptions on images.

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    10. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @RihoKroll @mattgperry and

      That's fine, I am not going to argue with you about this any more. I was under the impression that you actually were interested in improving the situation, but you seem to have this mindset that the current situation is the best possible way to do what we have,

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      Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 29
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @RihoKroll and

      and that anything else is not possibly better, because tautologically that's how it is. If you want to live in the ruins of the precursor civilization, go ahead and do that, but that is not my jam.

      10:30 AM - 29 Apr 2021
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