Jonathan Blow

And besides that, UIs have become way more complex since the 90s. Infinite scrolling (or higher data density in general), animations, complex styling and layout constraints, more fonts, more languages, more input methods (touch), complex vector drawings (maps), more networking

Yes, the job is some small factor more complicated, but computers are orders of magnitude faster. There is a big mismatch here.

Seriously though, the only way you can be making these arguments is if you have no idea how fast your computer actually is.

It’s interesting your default (and unwavering!) position is that Riho is ignorant and that all browsers are poorly written. Maybe take a look? They’re all open source.

Why do you remark that Johnathan is being "unwavering"? Is that somehow remarkable? Do you instantly buckle on your position in an argument when someone tries to contradict it? Do you think Riho made better points than Jonathan? From my view it was completely one-sided for J.

Really? What was the point that Jonathan made that really swung it for you?

Riho insinuated that since some things are more complex than others, bad performance is inevitable, or even if you optimize something slow frameworks are the default, or something. Argument by vague trend, noncentral. J asked straightforward questions that weren't really answered

He rightfully pointed out that the web is intrinsically more complex than one-size-fits-one, non-accessible, machine-opaque game UIs. “J” just chewed his lip on “I don’t get why that’s hard” which translated “I don’t get it”