So what we are observing is, since the Web started, it has become so much slower that a supercomputer would no longer be able to run it? Does that make sense to anyone?https://twitter.com/Suhail/status/1387063023521595394 …
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Replying to @Jonathan_Blow
But the tides are already turning and more and more web developers are starting to understand that the whole Node thing was a big mistake. Look out for Elixir based sites pushing server rendered content over websockets.
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Replying to @bronlund
Server-side rendering is an *absurd* solution that depends on a severe misunderstanding of the problem in order to seem to make any sense at all.
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Replying to @Jonathan_Blow
You would want to render those fancy templates on the server and just push plain HTML to the client.
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Replying to @bronlund
Someday you guys will stop making the Web worse, but maybe it won't happen until everything completely collapses, I guess.
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Replying to @Jonathan_Blow
I wonder how you would make Twitter without resolving all the templates on the server. Enlighten me :)
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Replying to @bronlund
You are conflating many things that are simultaneously arbitrary and confused. What “templates” do you think are actually necessary, as opposed to being an arbitrary overcomplex way of doing things? Twitter is a relatively trivial application from a UI perspective.
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Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @bronlund
I mean, traditionally, the way client/server systems work is that the server does the server part and the client does the client part. Having the server do the client part is a bad idea in terms of efficiency as well as quality of experience for the end-user.
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The genesis of this whole discussion is the assertion that web people make easy things difficult and slow and have no idea they are doing that because they don’t understand simple and fast, and ... you are kind of just helping to prove the point.
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Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @bronlund
web devs: "must go faster, must go faster - need to make *more* shit faster"... the world: "woah, you're making more *shit* faster... and it's all getting slower!"... web devs: "can't hear you over the sound of MAKING SHIT EVEN FASTER!"
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