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Designer/Programmer of Braid and The Witness. President, Thekla, Inc. Partner in IndieFund. Currently working on good new things.

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    1. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 27

      The public version of the Web started taking off in 1995, around the time Netscape Navigator was released. Here's the World Supercomputer List for 1995: https://www.top500.org/lists/top500/1995/06/ … A Coffee Lake GPU in a random laptop is almost double the performance of the top of that list.

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    2. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 27

      Jonathan Blow Retweeted Suhail

      So what we are observing is, since the Web started, it has become so much slower that a supercomputer would no longer be able to run it? Does that make sense to anyone?https://twitter.com/Suhail/status/1387063023521595394 …

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      1/ Today we're unveiling Mighty: a faster browser that is entirely streamed from a powerful computer in the cloud. Demo in the next tweet 👇 New website: https://mightyapp.com 
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    3. Pål Brønlund‏ @bronlund Apr 28
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow

      But the tides are already turning and more and more web developers are starting to understand that the whole Node thing was a big mistake. Look out for Elixir based sites pushing server rendered content over websockets.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 28
      Replying to @bronlund

      Server-side rendering is an *absurd* solution that depends on a severe misunderstanding of the problem in order to seem to make any sense at all.

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    5. Pål Brønlund‏ @bronlund Apr 28
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow

      You would want to render those fancy templates on the server and just push plain HTML to the client.

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    6. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 28
      Replying to @bronlund

      Computers, how do they work???

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    7. Pål Brønlund‏ @bronlund Apr 28
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow

      They hide the secret stuff :D

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    8. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 28
      Replying to @bronlund

      Someday you guys will stop making the Web worse, but maybe it won't happen until everything completely collapses, I guess.

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    9. Pål Brønlund‏ @bronlund Apr 28
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow

      I wonder how you would make Twitter without resolving all the templates on the server. Enlighten me :)

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    10. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 28
      Replying to @bronlund

      You are conflating many things that are simultaneously arbitrary and confused. What “templates” do you think are actually necessary, as opposed to being an arbitrary overcomplex way of doing things? Twitter is a relatively trivial application from a UI perspective.

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      Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 28
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @bronlund

      I mean, traditionally, the way client/server systems work is that the server does the server part and the client does the client part. Having the server do the client part is a bad idea in terms of efficiency as well as quality of experience for the end-user.

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        2. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Apr 28
          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @bronlund

          The genesis of this whole discussion is the assertion that web people make easy things difficult and slow and have no idea they are doing that because they don’t understand simple and fast, and ... you are kind of just helping to prove the point.

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        3. Dan Lynch‏ @quickfiredan Apr 28
          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @bronlund

          web devs: "must go faster, must go faster - need to make *more* shit faster"... the world: "woah, you're making more *shit* faster... and it's all getting slower!"... web devs: "can't hear you over the sound of MAKING SHIT EVEN FASTER!"

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        1. Pål Brønlund‏ @bronlund Apr 28
          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow

          You can say that, but what is the client part really. Today we use the client for a lot of stuff, that not too long ago, was clearly the server's responsibility. I could argue that it has reached the point that it's not a client anymore - it has become a server node.

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