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Designer/Programmer of Braid and The Witness. President, Thekla, Inc. Partner in IndieFund. Currently working on good new things.

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    1. tahini‏ @tahini Jan 18

      Anyone know if @Jonathan_Blow still hates language servers?

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    2. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jan 18
      Replying to @tahini

      I actually don't hate them, because, they are a good barometer of who actually understands computers. If someone likes language servers, you can stop talking to that person and go about your business.

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    3. tahini‏ @tahini Jan 18
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow

      I remember reading your rationale initially, but I have forgotten (I think it was a good couple years ago right?). Can you summarize super quickly?

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    4. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jan 18
      Replying to @tahini

      What it really is, is a proposal for how all code sharing should work on modern computers. If we do that, everything will become insanely slow and a giant undebuggable disaster.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    5. tahini‏ @tahini Jan 18
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow

      My experience with language servers is basically just IDE-kind of features in Vim — when you say code sharing, you mean in the sense of how different files relate to one another in this kind of context? (go-to-definition, etc)

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    6. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jan 18
      Replying to @tahini

      I mean, what are "language servers"? They are a way to communicate with code that provides autocomplete information and whatever. Is there anything fundamentally different between that, and any other kind of library code you would use to do anything?

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    7. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jan 18
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @tahini

      When you read the justifications people give for why LSP is a good idea, are these justifications restricted to LSP in some way, or do they apply to all code?

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    8. tahini‏ @tahini Jan 18
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow

      I honestly haven't read too many justifications (that's partly what spawned this question in my mind). I remember a time when there was ctags in Vim for this kind of stuff. The LSP paradigm, for me, feels easier. But I am curious if I am missing something?

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    9. tahini‏ @tahini Jan 18
      Replying to @tahini @Jonathan_Blow

      Put another way, when I think 'bloated and slow', I typically think of an actual IDE.

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      Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jan 18
      Replying to @tahini

      Okay, so, how is it that an actual IDE gets 'bloated and slow'?

      4:27 PM - 18 Jan 2021
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        2. tahini‏ @tahini Jan 18
          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow

          Continual expansion of features, driven by monetization. Complexity, basically.

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        3. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jan 18
          Replying to @tahini

          Really? Does Visual Studio of today have a lot more features than Visual Studio did in 2005?

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