Jonathan Blow

And most of the feedback in Aras' post is vendor oriented feedback. The games industry could also spend some money and time working on their own tooling. Clang is open source, you could land papers and features if you actually wanted to.

We have spent enormous amounts of time and money on tooling. Every studio spends some amount of money reinventing reflection/serialization stuff because we desperately need that metadata. Some systems are cheap macros, some are fully custom builds of Clang.

Right, and people have been working on getting you that metadata for years in the Reflection TS that will do pretty much everything you want. Have you been paying attention to it to give feedback? Christer implies that work isn't software engineering. https://twitter.com/ChristerEricson/status/1154597139856551937 …

My implication was that real problems (like modules) have been ignored for 20-30 years (and meanwhile the problem has gotten harder so we get a weak module concept), while 'enthusiasts' run the show, adding irrelevant fluff (e.g. <=>) that adds no practical sweng value.

The context of your tweet did not read that way, to me at least. Still not everyone works on every feature. Do you think piling the people from all these library features onto modules would make it work?

The problem is that C++ basically has no direction, and that is probably an intrinsic consequence of (design by committee) + (historical baggage of how C++ evolved). If C++ had reasonable priorities, it would be in a way better shape today.

I believe if a game dev powerhouse with a strong technical head had absorbed (C++ standard + compiler) as its core tool and evolved it in a tight R&D loop to fit its imperatives, C++ would be much saner and efficient lang than what C++ committee has produced in the past 20 years.

The result would have been a language for developing games. C++ is not that language. It's a language for games, finance, audio, telecommunication, systems programming, embedded, automotive, aerospace, science, machine learning, server infrastructure...