I dunno man, the bit about our expectations (of how reliable software should be) sinking into the mud resonates pretty strongly
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Replying to @Rich_Harris @kylemathews and
There are other explanations for that that seem more plausible to me, e.g. we use a lot more software, software has gotten a lot more complex, there's a much lower bar to writing software and so there are more beginners writing it, etc.
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Replying to @brian_d_vaughn @kylemathews and
I don't think JB would disagree with any of that — it's the effects that are the problem, not the causes
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Replying to @Rich_Harris @brian_d_vaughn and
Side-effect of a lot of new people starting to learn technology is that a lot of previous knowledge gets lost, because there are way too few good teachers. The "archetype" developer avoiding human communication makes the data loss even worse.
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Replying to @autiomaa @Rich_Harris and
I think one of the things I disagree with is that the previous knowledge is "lost" - diluted maybe, but the knowledge is still there. It's in books and on lecture videos. It's there for people who need it / want it, unlike the examples of past empires JB opens with.
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Replying to @brian_d_vaughn @autiomaa and
Many/most people write mediocre software (myself included). I suspect most people in 4th century Rome couldn't have made the Lycurgus Cup, or design an aqueduct. I don't think this signals the downfall of civilization or the fact that we're "losing" any ability.
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Replying to @brian_d_vaughn @Rich_Harris and
Even I lose abilities over the time. Memory degrades, and skills often do that too. If that happens on a personal level, there might be something similar elsewhere too. It has more to do about forgetting the knowledge, as data disappears and books get burned.
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Replying to @autiomaa @brian_d_vaughn and
> the knowledge is still there. It's in books and on lecture videos his claim is that we can lose that faster than we imagine — in ancient civilisations that knowledge was literally *carved in stone*, yet it was still lost. All the knowledge on YouTube could be lost instantly
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Replying to @Rich_Harris @autiomaa and
Why is "carved in stone" better? Stones can be broken or lost. You have to be able to physically see a stone to access that knowledge. Modern society has much more redundancy.
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Replying to @brian_d_vaughn @Rich_Harris and
I'm not arguing that we still couldn't lose knowledge. I can imagine terrible scenarios where we could. I just don't think it's *already happening* like he seems to be suggesting.
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Judging from some of the replies I have gotten on Twitter in the past couple of days, it has clearly already happened. Why do you believe it hasn’t?
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Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @brian_d_vaughn and
If you’re a younger person and didn’t live through earlier generations of software development, how would you even know what was commonly understood in those times, in order to determine whether that information is no longer being passed along?
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