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Game designer of Braid and The Witness. Partner in IndieFund.

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    1. Robert Walter‏ @RobertWalter83 Jun 15
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      so @Jonathan_Blow considers the language server protocol to be the devil and that lang servers are meant to run locally on every devs' machine to replace libraries to do IDE stuff... maybe he should take a look at @gitpod to get another perspective?https://youtu.be/pW-SOdj4Kkk?t=2546 …

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    2. Felix Becker‏ @felixfbecker Jun 15
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      Replying to @RobertWalter83 @meysholdt and

      Such an uninformed take. Doesn’t consider at all that editors and compilers are written in different languages

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    3. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jun 15
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      Replying to @felixfbecker @RobertWalter83 and

      The fact that many people think that this objection even makes sense, is an example of the generational knowledge loss that I discuss in the lecture.

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    4. Felix Becker‏ @felixfbecker Jun 15
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      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @RobertWalter83 and

      I’m really curious how you would create libraries in any language that can be used by editors in every language. If I’m missing generational knowledge here, please enlighten me!

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    5. Robert Walter‏ @RobertWalter83 Jun 15
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      Replying to @felixfbecker @Jonathan_Blow and

      Sounds like a misunderstanding to me. If you do sth like 'go to def' in an editor+plugin env, this is usually realized by a simple method call. Having a server in the picture makes it inherently more complex architecturally. I thought that was Jon's point and I'd agree. 1/2

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    6. Robert Walter‏ @RobertWalter83 Jun 15
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      Replying to @RobertWalter83 @felixfbecker and

      Infering that this is the main purpose of the LSP and that it is therefore the devil and the worst thing ever is not only polemic, but wrong.

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    7. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jun 15
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      Replying to @RobertWalter83 @felixfbecker and

      What do you claim is the main purpose of the LSP, then? The official page is very plainspeaking about it: https://microsoft.github.io/language-server-protocol/ …

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    8. Robert Walter‏ @RobertWalter83 Jun 15
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      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @felixfbecker and

      Yes, it is plainspeaking about it's purpose, so why should I go down the rabbit hole and try to explain it again, given the limitations of Twitter, if you obviously already think your depiction in your talk is truthful to what you can read on the site?

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      Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jun 15
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      Replying to @RobertWalter83 @felixfbecker and

      The most charitable conclusion I can come to here is that what we are really talking about, again, is a failure of generational knowledge transfer.

      4:37 PM - 15 Jun 2019
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        2. Robert Walter‏ @RobertWalter83 Jun 16
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          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @felixfbecker and

          No, I never even addressed your thesis. I just pointed out that you take a very uninformed standpoint on sth and explain it wrongly and with extreme rhetoric ("devil", "the worst") so that it fits your narrative. Reminds me of certain people + makes it hard to take you seriously.

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        3. Robert Walter‏ @RobertWalter83 Jun 16
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          Replying to @RobertWalter83 @Jonathan_Blow

          Also, your dismissive and partly immature tone here reinforces my impression to not take you seriously, even though I think you give some interesting points in your talk. Still, I don't get the feeling that you are interested in a meaningful discussion. That's fine, so long.

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        4. Andreas Svensson‏ @syranide Jun 16
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          Replying to @RobertWalter83 @Jonathan_Blow

          I would say it's even the name, "language *server* protocol". The objection is that there is absolutely no reason for that to be exposed as a server, HTTP-server with JSON-RPC no less. Could you even imagine how complex this would be if you made it into 5 servers communicating

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        5. Andreas Svensson‏ @syranide Jun 16
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          amongst themselves? I sincerely hope you can appreciate the danger of an entire generation believing that replacing something so fundamental and simple as synchronous function calls with asynchronous HTTP-requests to a JSON-RPC HTTP-server is somehow desireable and good. It's not

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        6. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jun 16
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          Replying to @syranide @RobertWalter83

          The one thing I didn’t mention in the talk, too, is that once you have N servers, the claim “this insulated your program from a crash” is clearly untrue, because have fun trying to recover when some guy in the middle of that web dies and restarts.

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        7. Rafael Chaves‏ @abstratt Jun 16
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          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @syranide @RobertWalter83

          If they are stateless (caching aside), crashing/restarting can be a way of life. And there is no "web" implied - what is the need for communication between servers?

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        8. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jun 16
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          Replying to @abstratt @syranide @RobertWalter83

          Because libraries use libraries, all the time. I explain this in the talk. It's easy to say "stateless", but try the actual exercise of looking at every API you use and seeing what would be required to make it stateless, and what would be the corresponding drop in efficiency.

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        9. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jun 16
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          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @abstratt and

          (And also, what would be the corresponding increase in complexity of the control logic.)

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