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Game designer of Braid and The Witness. Partner in IndieFund.

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    1. Bram Stolk‏ @BramStolk May 27
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      @Jonathan_Blow Some fodder for your SW Simplification forum: How many lines of code does it take to boot an OS? Kernel source not included. https://m.slashdot.org/story/356216 

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    2. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 28
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      Replying to @BramStolk

      Time to rename it “31 million lines problem.” @cmuratori

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    3. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 28
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      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @BramStolk @cmuratori

      This is a really good presentation idea that Casey has made, because he can keep re-giving it every couple of years, and one of the slides is a graph of the name of the presentation over time.

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    4. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori May 28
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      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @BramStolk

      Or I could just rename it the f(year)=... million line problem and fill in the ... with whatever function fit I do that predicts the line count for the year x.

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      Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 28
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      Replying to @cmuratori @BramStolk

      But seriously, how does it take 1 million lines to run init scripts. wtf.

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        2. Jari Komppa‏ @Sol_HSA May 29
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          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @cmuratori @BramStolk

          I've said this before.. the problem is because adding code is perceived as "free". Hardware dev is "healthier" because there's always some physical limits you must face, whereas fixing the immediate problem in software by adding more code is "free".

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        3. Jari Komppa‏ @Sol_HSA May 29
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          Replying to @Sol_HSA @Jonathan_Blow and

          Everybody should code a couple of games for the zx spectrum. There's actual limits for software there.

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        4. Ido Yehieli‏ @tametick May 29
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          Replying to @Sol_HSA @Jonathan_Blow and

          dont even have to go that far! you still run into such limits with the much comfier 386/VGA/SoundBlaster DOS machine.

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        5. Jari Komppa‏ @Sol_HSA May 29
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          Replying to @tametick @Jonathan_Blow and

          You can learn everything you need to know (or even can know!) about zx spectrum in one evening.

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        6. Ido Yehieli‏ @tametick May 29
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          Replying to @Sol_HSA @Jonathan_Blow and

          fair enough!

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        7. Ido Yehieli‏ @tametick May 29
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          Replying to @tametick @Sol_HSA and

          always seemed like such a pain to program :) z80 asm with slow cassette based storage, vs Turbo Pascal off of an HDD.

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        8. Jari Komppa‏ @Sol_HSA May 29
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          Replying to @tametick @Jonathan_Blow and

          Good side in doing it today is that you can use sdcc to compile c to speccy. It also underlines the control you give up in writing in higher level language, as you hit those hardware resource limits faster (and it's less clear when you do)

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        2. Mārtiņš Možeiko‏ @mmozeiko May 28
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          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @cmuratori @BramStolk

          While I agree 1M is very high number, systemd does much more than "run init scripts". It is also manages network, dns, ntp, containers, cron, etc... For me systemd replaced many other bloated software (like NetworkManager). Only one software to manage, not 20 different one.

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        3. Andrew J. Bromage‏ @deguerre May 28
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          Replying to @mmozeiko @Jonathan_Blow and

          Has anyone compared line counts of systemd vs svchost.exe vs launchd? Curious to know if systemd is an outlier here.

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        1. Fernando Moreira‏ @dangerware May 28
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          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @cmuratori @BramStolk

          Fernando Moreira Retweeted Fernando Moreira

          And before that there's firmware too.https://twitter.com/dangerware/status/1123640569375481856?s=20 …

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          Fernando Moreira @dangerware
          Here's a high-level explanation of the boot process of a dual-socket IBM POWER8 system. It runs two systems comprising a total of 470K LOCs (400K of C++ & 70K of C). That's all before touching the Linux kernel. At least all that code can be audited. (1/2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4XGvssR-ag …
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        1. Martin Donlon‏ @wickerwaka May 28
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          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @cmuratori @BramStolk

          "Only" about 500k lines is actual C source code, there is about 500k lines of text data that makes up the hardware database (hwdb).

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