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Game designer of Braid and The Witness. Partner in IndieFund.

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    1. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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      If I want to play videos from within a program (I don't care much about format), should I use Theora or an mp4 library (any recommendations?) We used Bink in The Witness, but I am looking for something I can redistribute for free.

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    2. Akhil Indurti‏ @smasher164 May 23
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      WebM is free, so you could use a combination of libwebm, libvpx, libogg, and libvorbis.

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    3. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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      Replying to @smasher164

      I just don't want a mess that big, though...

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    4. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori May 23
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      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @smasher164

      One of the main reasons Bink is still in business is because there never seems to be an answer to this question.

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    5. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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      Replying to @cmuratori @smasher164

      It is kind of crazy given how many people in the world want to watch videos.

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    6. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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      Like, can someone just make a video format that is a regular file format like any other file format? That isn't broken into separate transport file streaming chunk opaque flibflobber formats? We all know what a video is, we all know how it behaves, just make one god damn thing.

      5 replies 7 retweets 42 likes
      Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @cmuratori @smasher164

      Maybe this is what I have to do after releasing the initial programming language beta. It wouldn't even have to have good compression to be valuable ... it just has to be one simple f'ing thing.

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        2. tbodt‏ @tblodt May 23
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          compression is the main reason video formats are so complicated

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        3. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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          Replying to @tblodt @cmuratori @smasher164

          That is false.

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        4. tbodt‏ @tblodt May 23
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          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @cmuratori @smasher164

          why do you say that? (if I'm wrong, I want to know why)

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        5. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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          Replying to @tblodt @cmuratori @smasher164

          Because compression is easy to encapsulate and hide in code. You would be able to use video formats without knowing or caring what the compression was. If video formats were usable. Which they aren't. The biggest culprits in terms of complication are...

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        6. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @tblodt and

          (a) idea that you should separate the package format from the content and allow people to use any package format (b) idea that you should separate the audio encoding from the video, and allow people to use any audio encoding (c) idea that you should break your audio playback ...

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        7. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @tblodt and

          ... code into 237 different libraries (d) idea that you should interface with OS-installed codecs to play videos (e) idea that people want to do a bunch of work to be able to use your format (f) idea that videos shouldn't be simple to play Feel free to reorder these.

          2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
        8. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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          [Worth mentioning, Bink doesn't have any of these problems, which is one reason RAD is so successful getting people to pay money for it.]

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        9. tbodt‏ @tblodt May 23
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          the way I see it, the reason we have the complexity of container formats is to avoid constantly redesigning the file format every time someone comes up with a new compression algorithm, which isn't something bink has to deal with

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        1. Francesco‏ @jacobsbydesign May 23
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          just zip a stream of ppms

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        2. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori May 23
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          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @smasher164

          I literally said exactly this on Handmade Hero a while back. video_compressor.h and video_decompressor.h would not be that hard to write, assuming it is not that great, but nobody has even come with a lightyear of providing that. Codec distributions are universally abysmal.

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        1. Pablo Degryse‏ @Pablo_degryse May 23
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          You're just too good for this world, Jon!

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        1. Jari Komppa‏ @Sol_HSA May 23
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          FLI? ;)

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        2. Puzzled Cat‏ @SPPuzzledCat May 23
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          Would be nice if something like this also could finally replace gif being standard for small animated content as well.

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        1. State Off Games‏ @StateOffGames May 23
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          If size does not matter what about APNG?

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        2. Ennis Massey‏ @MicrTransactns May 23
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          The efficacy would depend on the length and resolution of the video. You could string together images with no compression, but it'd bloat quickly, there's the possibility of compressing each file, but decompression takes time, and holding it in memory might not be viable

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        3. Ennis Massey‏ @MicrTransactns May 23
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          VP9 would probably be the best option, pretty widely supported, lack of licensing issues. Theora is proprietary, and has dropped support for Android as a Will Not Fix bug.

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